1951 Bowman Mantle PSA 7(OC) on PWCC tonight

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Ive heard and read over the years this is not always an accurate assessment. Holders have evolved over the years. However, if a standard card does not fit into a 2 1/2 X 3 1/2 holder, I do question that. They should be able to get that right.

What are others thoughts on this statement? I’d love it if it were that straightforward.

All I know for sure is cards vary in size from the factory.I still have insane amounts of cards I pulled from packs myself. Over the last few years I have been slowly organizing them. When I put them into 800(example size) count boxes you can clearly see slight size differences in them. I have noticed the width is almost always exactly the same but there is a difference in the height of many of them.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by bnorth

All I know for sure is cards vary in size from the factory.I still have insane amounts of cards I pulled from packs myself. Over the last few years I have been slowly organizing them. When I put them into 800(example size) count boxes you can clearly see slight size differences in them. I have noticed the width is almost always exactly the same but there is a difference in the height of many of them.

Exactly Ben. I also have cards that I pulled from packs, and easily recall the same card from one particular set was cut to three different sizes.

Hence my question. Is this really a defined and accepted test?
"How well does the card fit in the holder?"

[Goudey77]

This is all crazy talk and half of you all sound like paranoid geeks
Cardboard could've shrunk through moisture and aging throughout the years.
All the more reason to stop caring about the grade and go for what appeals to your eye.

This hobby should be fun. Not analyzing every fiber and print dot.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

This is all crazy talk and half of you all sound like paranoid geeks
Cardboard could've shrunk through moisture and aging throughout the years.
All the more reason to stop caring about the grade and go for what appeals to your eye.

This hobby should be fun. Not analyzing every fiber and print dot.

Thaaaaaaaat's right...... Shrunk due to moisture You win for knee slapper of the day. THEY ARE ALL TRIMMED. maybe you didn't get the memo it's a billion dollar fraud.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Goudey77

This is all crazy talk and half of you all sound like paranoid geeks
Cardboard could've shrunk through moisture and aging throughout the years.
All the more reason to stop caring about the grade and go for what appeals to your eye.

This hobby should be fun. Not analyzing every fiber and print dot.

Steve and Joe could not have said it better….

Sounds like a promising contender for PSA's new Ad Campaign.

[aloondilana]

The card is an old cert and has nothing to do with Brent other than he accepted it as a consignment.

[darwinbulldog]

I think it originally came back as a PSA 7, then it was cracked, trimmed, and resubmitted to get the rarer PSA 7(OC) grade.

[Goudey77]

I heard that the old slabs had some issues with their seals. So if you lived in a humid climate the cards could shrink up to %5
If you study paper fibers used in the 1950's you'd understand the risks involved with post war era cardboard.