Small Traditions LLC/SCANDAL UPDATE

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Maybe YOU yourself should find a new hobby. Since this one brings you such misery. My girlfriend likes glittering cups. That would be a good one for you.

lets just keep doing what you're doing Bobby by being that 3 year old kid at Christmas waiting for the pop. I'll consider collecting glittering cups now cause you have me on a tangent and you just keep being a doorknob and waiting for pops. Contributing to the billion dollar fraud.

X 15 guys (Minimum) for 15 years minimum. Add it up. That just from one imbecile. This guy Brent Mastro.

Here's how it'd done Bobby so (WATCH THIS)

https://youtu.be/8e1lwt7E29k


STOP WITH THE POP DOPEY

[LarsenMN]

I skip right over the slabbed cards. I find I get the best deals by purchasing raw cards. If it has some slightly rounded corners, I know it has not been altered. Plus they are about 5x less for the exact same card minus a crappy slab and "opinionated" grade. Penny sleeves and top loaders are plenty of protection for my ex-ex+ vintage collection.

[LarsenMN]

Also if I find a card has been trimmed, I can contact the buyer and 90% of the time I get refunded. Or I am out a measly $10 or $15.

[Republicaninmass]

People may not be consigning, it is probably his trimmed collection. I had to laugh when I recieved the email about the auction. The audacity of this guy is beyond belief. Faking provenance is about 6 feet below a snakes belly.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

People may not be consigning, it is probably his trimmed collection. I had to laugh when I recieved the email about the auction. The audacity of this guy is beyond belief. Faking provenance is about 6 feet below a snakes belly.

I think he still had some consignments in the pipeline from last year which are in the current auction. When lots get hammered in his auction to sell for much more a month or two later, should make consignors running for a new company to consign with.

One example of a card I follow is this card. Sold for 1955.00 in Small Traditions and then it pops up in PWCC and sells for over 3k

https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=45306

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Little...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[bluez]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

I think he still had some consignments in the pipeline from last year which are in the current auction. When lots get hammered in his auction to sell for much more a month or two later, should make consignors running for a new company to consign with.

One example of a card I follow is this card. Sold for 1955.00 in Small Traditions and then it pops up in PWCC and sells for over 3k

https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=45306

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Little...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I can't get the kind of money on Ebay that PWCC gets.
Where do you and others suggest as an alternative for vintage and newer?

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by bluez

I can't get the kind of money on Ebay that PWCC gets.
Where do you and others suggest as an alternative for vintage and newer?

For vintage any on this list I would trust. Not in any order:

1. BST on Net54 (Free and many collectors see it)
2. Sterling Auctions (Anything really)
3. Heritage (Higher dollar items)
4. Hunt (Post Cards/memorabilia)
5. Huggins & Scott (newer stuff including minor league)
6. Brockleman Auctions (Especially booklets/papers/magazines)
7. LOTG (Type cards/postcards/photos)
8. REA (higher dollar items especially 19th century)
9. Clean Sweep (prewar items including obscure)
9. eBay seller that comes recommended from here. More fees involved in this option.

If you consign, ask to have sellers fee waved and make sure you know what they are charging the buyer for fees. Plus make sure you like the way the auction closes. If some/all your items need grading, then negotiate the grading cost upfront.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by bluez

I can't get the kind of money on Ebay that PWCC gets.
Where do you and others suggest as an alternative for vintage and newer?

Before I bought Birmingham Auctioneers I consigned several items with PWCC on which I thought he would outperform my ebay account. Oddly enough with no shill bidding they went for very pedestrian prices and significantly less than identical items in the same sale. If I recall the items were 1965 Mantle PSA 8, 1967 Tom Seaver PSA 7, 1986 Fleer Jordan PSA 8 and 1979 Topps Gretzky PSA 8.

[mybestbretts]

I first want to say I am not a dealer, I am a collector. I have bought many
times from Small Traditions auctions as well as other auctions and have had many cards graded by PSA.
I happen to have a number of postcards that have been graded by PSA and
of course, I could never get a 10, only the dealers it seemed to me. Recently
Traditions had a 74/75, not sure which PSA 10 George Brett postcard up
for sale, which took my 9 down in value, and in fact maybe 2. Now I read
that they might have been trimmed. This is so funny because you won't
believe how many cards I have received back from PSA with "evidence of
trimming" when I bought them in the pack and never from a dealer so
I knew they weren't trimmed. I recently battled with them over a Jetter
they said was trimmed, which I had broken out of the pack years back.
They finally slabbed it and graded it "authentic". I heard later that that
whole group of cards might have all been smaller then PSA standards,
but Small Traditions had a PSA 10.