T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

tedzan · #1 03-15-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OldOriole

Hi Ted,

I was intrigued by your last post about Pennsylvania being the most common birthplace of T206 players. I had an hour or two to kill and took a look at the birthplaces of all of them (save the couple which are unkown). Turns out you are correct!! Here are the numbers for the most common birthplaces (I'll spare you the whole list):

1) Pennsylvania - 70 individuals
2) Ohio - 46
3) New York - 44
4) Illinois - 27
5) Massachusetts - 18
6) Missouri - 15
7) Michigan - 13
8) California - 11
8 tie) Wisconsin - 11
10) Indiana - 10
11) Texas - 9
12) Canada! - 8 (along with Maryland and Iowa)

Hi Dave

I really appreciate your research. I was making an educated guess in the above post, based on my knowledge of most of the 388 different ballplayers in the T206 set.

Included in those 70 Pensylvanians are Matty, Plank, and Wagner. I would attribute this large representation to the coal mining regions in Pennsylvania which had well
developed semi-pro baseball.

It was great seeing you and your four daughters at the Philly Show, recently. We had a lot of fun.....and, I was surprised that two of your daughters are Yankees fans.

Take care,

TED Z
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tedzan · #2 03-16-2020, 07:10 PM

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Continuing from Post #955 with NY Giants players....here are two more Red Ink Twins guys. The Donlin (with bat) pose is one of my favorite T206's.
This red HINDU card of his is my 1st red HINDU, which I acquired many, many moons ago.
"Turkey Mike's" story as a BB player and a Show Biz Actor is fascinating. Had he taken his BB career more seriously, though, he would be in the HOF (career BA = .333).

350/460 Series subject

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Exclusive 12 subject

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TED Z
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tedzan · #3 03-17-2020, 08:09 PM

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.........Six members of the Red Ink Twins club.�..�

John Hummel, I'm proud to say he is a Pennsylvanian (like other players shown here). He had a long career with Brooklyn (1905 - 1915). John was a "Jack of all fields".
He played every position on the field (except for Catcher). His ML career ended in 1918 with the Yankees.

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There were two "Jeff" Pfeffer (brothers) in the ML in the deadball era. This T206 card features Francis X. "Big Jeff" Pfeffer (1905 - 1911, Outfielder & Pitcher W-L 31-39).
His younger brother is Edward "Jeff" Pfeffer (1911 - 1924, Pitcher W-L 158 - 112).

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TED Z
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tedzan · #4 03-19-2020, 08:01 PM

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.........Six members of the Red Ink Twins club.�..�

LAST CALL......for your T206 Red Ink Twins cards. If you have them, then why not show them......Thanks.

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I have posted all twelve Red Ink Twins in the Exclusive 12 group (Posts #948, 952-956, 958-960) with their HINDU and SWEET CAPORAL 350-460 Factory #42 backs.
Plus Twins of Hal Chase and "Turkey Mike" Donlin from the 350/460 Series. There are 33 more subjects remaining in this Series. Refer to the Checklist in Post #945
for the guys in this Series. And, you may be surprised to find in your T206 collection that you have a Twin (or two).

TED Z
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tedzan · #5 04-23-2020, 08:24 PM

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I recently received a couple of emails from Net54 "readers" (I hate the term "lurker") regarding my theory for why a fair number of the Wagner cards have originated from
the Long Island, NY area. Post #824 here speculates that Joseph Knapp, the founder of the American Lithographic Company (ALC), who had a Summer home in Suffolk Co.
Long Island may have been the source of Wagner cards from that area. What I am suggesting is that when ATC was forced to discontinue printing Wagner's image on T206
cards, ALC had by that time printed up many 1st Series cards which included Wagner (and Plank). Visits to his Summer home, Mr. Knapp would take a number of discarded
Wagner cards with him and handed them out to his children, their friends, and neighbors. If so, these Wagner's eventually found their way into NY residents' collections.

I am sure that some of you may think this theory is a far-fetched result of my "wild" imagination. Whatever, I base this theory on three experiences which I was fortunate to
have in the early 1980's. I'll present the most significant one first in this post. And the other two experiences in a forthcoming post. So bear with me, as you'll find this story
quite interesting.

I was doing research in 1981 regarding a BOWMAN article I was writing for Bob Lemke's BaseBall Cards magazine. The real genius of the BOWMAN Gum Co. was George Moll.
George and Warren Bowman were close business associates. The Moll Advertising Agency in Abington, PA created in 1938 the Horrors of War cards, 1939 - 1941 PLAY BALL
cards, War Gum (1941 - 1943) cards, and 1948 - 1955 BOWMAN Sportscards & Non-Sportscards. Originally, these cards were marketed as GUM, Inc. (1939 - 1943). After
WWII as the BOWMAN Gum Co.
I was invited to George Moll's home to interview him. It was a very informative 2 - 3 hour discussion on how the BOWMAN cards were produced. The artwork, how they were
printed, etc. Afterward, George took me upstairs to his display room where he showed me his awesome collection of uncut sheets of Sports & Non-Sports cards. Albums with
cards from 1938 - 1955 in unbelievable Mint condition. Artwork created by the artists employed at his Advertising Agency. Plus, a good number of BB cards which BOWMAN
never issued. The entire day was an absolutely surreal experience.

Let's have a discussion of your thoughts, personal experiences, etc. regarding the provenance of T206 Wagner cards ?

TED Z
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