T206 prices by back, what's hot? What's not?

[Luke]

Things seem about the same lately. Steady realization of collectors as a whole that the mid-tier backs were/are undervalued. SC 350-460 fact 25 is still wayyyyyyyy undervalued. P42 is the only back which I'd say has declined in value over the last few years.

[Rhotchkiss]

I do not think Cycles are equivalent to Brown Hindus. Cycle 460s can be very tough (see lajoie w/ Bat, M Brown Chicago on siort, etc), and i think they may get a little more love by people collecting the back or who need it for a back run. But Cycle 350s are on par with EPDG, Tolstoi, and AB. I note that you posted two Cycle 460 backs.

I think series 460's on all backs, Sov, Cycle, AB, etc carry a premium over their 350 counterparts.

Thus, I think Cycle 460's may get a value bump. But not 350's

[RCMcKenzie]

Ryan, I agree, I mean Cycle 460. There are too many minor leaguers and too many cards for me to go after in the Cycle 350 series, although I will pick up the more well known players in this series. They used to sell for less than they do now though.
I'm trying to collect all the Cycle 460's. I have about a dozen. I went back and saw that the Pfeister that I did not bid on sold for half what the one's I did bid on, so maybe I did run them up some.

Luke, I agree on SC460-25, I grabbed this Bridwell the other day for a nice price...

[CMIZ5290]

Back prices will never, ever be like they were when David Hall was collecting....

[Leon]

460s almost always seem to get a premium. Agreed on the others too.

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I do not think Cycles are equivalent to Brown Hindus. Cycle 460s can be very tough (see lajoie w/ Bat, M Brown Chicago on siort, etc), and i think they may get a little more love by people collecting the back or who need it for a back run. But Cycle 350s are on par with EPDG, Tolstoi, and AB. I note that you posted two Cycle 460 backs.

I think series 460's on all backs, Sov, Cycle, AB, etc carry a premium over their 350 counterparts.

Thus, I think Cycle 460's may get a value bump. But not 350's

[Rhotchkiss]

Bored, so here are my cycle 460's, lets see'em!

[wazoo]

They always come in so small from my phone....Piedmont 42 for safe measure. Can't find my pictures of Snodgrass and Rucker atm...

[DeanH3]

Thank you Rob!

Ryan - Awesome cards. That Lajoie w/bat is smokin!

[Rhotchkiss]

Thanks Dean. Yours aren’t half bad yourself! You need the Tolstoi Young in Heritage to go with that Cycle 460 (awesome card).

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Luke

Things seem about the same lately. Steady realization of collectors as a whole that the mid-tier backs were/are undervalued. SC 350-460 fact 25 is still wayyyyyyyy undervalued. P42 is the only back which I'd say has declined in value over the last few years.

Luke- I agree on this back, but having said that, I have never got an ounce of premium for this back, ever...

[Rhotchkiss]

Then Bob, yes, I think Cycle 460s are experiencing a bit of a bump, especially certain combos that, like old mill, may be scarce with the 460 back. I also think there are a few guys out there chasing the back-set (also AB 460). I am not sure they generally have hit Hindu status, which I consider the king of the mid-tier backs, but they are on the ups a bit it seems. Note that the most recent Heritage auction has some tough Cycle 460 (and AB and Pied fact 42) combos along with all the BL 460s, Drums, Uzits, etc. I think that fact alone signaled that the right Cycle 460 combo “has arrived”.

[steve B]

What's weird is that I didn't think of SC 350-460 /25 as being all that tough until I joined here.
My SC 460s by factory
25 5
30 4
42 2
42OP 6

The 42 OPs weren't an accident, I like them and briefly would choose them over a similar card unless a tougher back was available.

The 25s were totally an accident.

[RCMcKenzie]

From T206Resource's back scarcity list...

11 Carolina Brights
12 P460-42
13 AB460
14 Hindu brown
15 AB 350 NF
16 Sov 460
17 Cycle 460
18 Tolstoi
19 SC460-25
20 EPDG

From this list, the one's that I think are lagging behind in price are...P460-42, Sov460, and SC460-25


I got my Hall Heritage catalog today...looking forward to it.

[Rhotchkiss]

I think factory 25 in all Sweet Cap series tend to be tougher than other factories.

Regarding Piedmont Factory 42 and Heritage, their catalogue says that the Tinker Bat off fact 42 is the only one known. Not true. I have the other “only one known” (thanks Adam from years ago)

[Luke]

A few of those rankings need an update. Sov460 shpuld be at the bottom and Cycle 460 needs to move up a bit.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

From T206Resource's back scarcity list...

11 Carolina Brights
12 P460-42
13 AB460
14 Hindu brown
15 AB 350 NF
16 Sov 460
17 Cycle 460
18 Tolstoi
19 SC460-25
20 EPDG

From this list, the one's that I think are lagging behind in price are...P460-42, Sov460, and SC460-25

Hi Rob

The AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and SOVEREIGN 460 backs each have "two-personalities". Therefore, we can not generalize on their "scarcity" ranking.


1st...... SOVEREIGN 460....the 46 subjects in the 460-only Series are not difficult to find.

The Six Super Prints with SOVEREIGN 460 backs on display here are very difficult to find.

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2nd...... AMERICAN BEAUTY 460....The "Exclusive 12" subjects (shown here) are relatively easy to find with the AB 460 back.




The other 62 subjects printed with AB 460 backs are quite difficult to find. At least a dozen (or more) are very difficult to find.
It has taken me 15 years to complete the AB 460 run consisting of 74 subjects. I need the 74th card to complete it (Camnitz).


For more details on these two T206 backs, check-out this link..... T206 Reference


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[Luke]

Incredible Cycle 460s guys! Here are my HOFers: