Will this stock market madness affect cards?

Shoeless Moe · #1 03-27-2020, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinMike

You do realize that the economy will bounce back, right?

and Mikey don't be so sure on this if America shuts down for 6, 12 months. You made your comments after a few good days of the Market.

Now everyone is like phew, at least the economy while taking a hit won't fall apart completely.

WRONG!!! It could very well continue to sink lower and lower if we choose the shut it down for too long.

This is a WAR. War on the virus and in wars you lose lives, now I can say the politically correct thing and say every life matters, if we lose just one its too many. Everyone says yay, pats on the back, Sorry folks how many wars do you lose 1 life?

We are gonna lose a shit ton.

The President has a tremendously (even insanely) tough job balancing this. And all you f-cks who criticize him on this, let's hear your plan?

Shoeless Moe · #2 03-27-2020, 05:13 PM

and on a baseball note which we should bring this back to.

Anyone else here the possibility of MLB starting end of MAY.

Now that would be something. Empty stands or not, I'm all for it.

PLAY BALL!!!!!! NO FEAR!!!!!!

ullmandds · #3 03-27-2020, 05:15 PM

Is there a reason the president isn't enforcing the defense production act? He goes on a tirade against GM today because the they admit they can't produce and at a higher than expected cost.

Would this be some kind of demerit...or tarnish on his precious legacy?

Oh and check out this sports card!

Shoeless Moe · #4 03-27-2020, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Is there a reason the president isn't enforcing the defense production act? He goes on a tirade against GM today because the they admit they can't produce and at a higher than expected cost.

Would this be some kind of demerit...or tarnish on his precious legacy?

Oh and check out this sports card!

How would you like to have the seat next to him on a plane, back in the day.

ullmandds · #5 03-27-2020, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

How would you like to have the seat next to him on a plane, back in the day.

nooooooo thx!

SMPEP · #6 03-27-2020, 06:29 PM

Paul,

We have the most cases in the world. The virus started in a country that is 3-4 times our size, with a much higher population density, that is poorer than us, and that has a less advanced medical infrastructure - and yet they had fewer cases and fewer deaths. They also didn't have it spread across their entire country like we have. And they have recovered and are getting back to work after a relatively short period - one that is guaranteed to be shorter than ours. Those are just the facts.

So explain to me ... what of Trump's response has been good?

Yes, I expect we will outperform Italy in our response, but Korea, Japan, China ... heck even Iran have all handled the situation better than America has. At best you can say ... our response has not been impressive.

Frankly, every American owes Rudy Gobert a debt of thanks. Imagine how insanely bad this would be now if he wasn't an idiot that forced the NBA (and NHL, soccer, etc.) to take action. Imagine the wide spread devastation that would have occurred because of the NCAA tournament. People flying in from all around the country to multiple locations. Congregating in huge crowds. Going to hotels and restaurants.

Our sports and business leaders have provided the correct leadership and response to this crisis ... not our federal government ... unlike China, Korea, Japan, etc.

Hopefully, our sports and business leaders continue to make the tough, but necessary choices, no matter what our political leaders say.
Patrick

Rhotchkiss · #7 03-27-2020, 06:40 PM

This thread, which was intended to be about the stock market's effect on card values, has gone to total shit.

Leon, can one block an entire thread? (only kind of kidding)

Santo10Fan · #8 03-27-2020, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

This thread, which was intended to be about the stock market's effect on card values, has gone to total shit.

Leon, can one block an entire thread? (only kind of kidding)

Seconded, at minimum water cooler

Shoeless Moe · #9 03-27-2020, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMPEP

Paul,

We have the most cases in the world. The virus started in a country that is 3-4 times our size, with a much higher population density, that is poorer than us, and that has a less advanced medical infrastructure - and yet they had fewer cases and fewer deaths. They also didn't have it spread across their entire country like we have. And they have recovered and are getting back to work after a relatively short period - one that is guaranteed to be shorter than ours. Those are just the facts.

So explain to me ... what of Trump's response has been good?

Yes, I expect we will outperform Italy in our response, but Korea, Japan, China ... heck even Iran have all handled the situation better than America has. At best you can say ... our response has not been impressive.

Frankly, every American owes Rudy Gobert a debt of thanks. Imagine how insanely bad this would be now if he wasn't an idiot that forced the NBA (and NHL, soccer, etc.) to take action. Imagine the wide spread devastation that would have occurred because of the NCAA tournament. People flying in from all around the country to multiple locations. Congregating in huge crowds. Going to hotels and restaurants.

Our sports and business leaders have provided the correct leadership and response to this crisis ... not our federal government ... unlike China, Korea, Japan, etc.

Hopefully, our sports and business leaders continue to make the tough, but necessary choices, no matter what our political leaders say.
Patrick

First - Andre's story is an amazing one, definitely check it out.

OK, so finally someone brings something to the table other then "you're an idiot, your an a--hole." I've been hearing that for years, come up with something more clever folks.

Ok, great point on the NBA, just amazing that all this shutdown stuff started with that. But I didn't hear CNN calling for a massive shutdown before this or anyone really, so hard to blame the President. Think about it, was he supposed to close the country while the idiot Democrats were wasting time impeaching him. Maybe had they not done all that BS he would have had more time to focus on this.

So before you or CNN or any Demo's throw stones. Maybe instead of their non-stop pouting and attacking the President they could have used their platform for good, but they didn't, they don't and they won't.

I compare the Democrats to a team that lost a game and didn't want to shake the hands of the opponent, and then complained about their opponent and whined (for 4 years mind you) instead of saying hey what could we have done better. Now because they didn't do that they don't even have a candidate who can beat Trump. They outstupided themselves.

And I'm not a Republican. So don't take this as a Republican's view of thing. I'm in the middle, like a little of both sides, dislike some of both sides. I even liked Obama, he too though made some mistakes, but overall not a bad job, and I loved his yearly NCAA picks. And I'd even go so far to say Obama is probably the better person then Trump, and even more Presidential, but Trump knocked it out of park on the economy/stock market/lowest unemployment/trade deal with China. Crisis aside as no one could have seen this coming. But he honestly will probably be the best to get the economy back when this is all said and done, and I like Biden too, but if you have been watching him lately, sorry he's just not the best person for the job. If he was 5-10 years younger, I might even say Biden over Trump, but and sadly he's just past his prime. Real good guy though.

And mind you this is what makes me a tremendous umpire during baseball season. EVERY coach says it and many fans compliment me. And that's no easy task if you've been to a youth baseball game. I take neither side, and if a pitcher or batter shows me up, I don't punish them by making the next call against them. I call it like I see it. If I blow a call, I will get both coaches together and say I blew that call, lets fix it. I don't get stubborn and say my call stands. Had I umped that Tigers game I would have fixed that call (before replay mind you) and that pitcher would have his perfect game. So some background and trying to keep this baseball related too.

So last to your question what President Trump has done right, and yes he can be an ass to some reporters and in the past to females, and at times says the wrong thing. Get over it. Who is perfect? Cast the first stone.

What he has done in this unprecedented nightmare of a situation is keep the economy afloat. He's getting money to Americans who need it to pay bills & get by until this is over, increasing/extending unemployment. Getting money to businesses. All the while balancing it with the social distancing, which is a stupid name mind you, it should be called physical distancing, but that's another error on the media. E1. He's getting all this sh-t done working with 50 States and Governors, each wanting the very most for their state, and that is no easy task. Getting ventilators built, hospitals built, ships coming in. AND He's not afraid to get some back to work as he knows how important it is to the bigger picture which CNN will NOT mention. What could come of a 3, 6, 12 month or more shutdown. Yes he's made some mistakes, but seriously who wouldn't in this mess of a situation.

1880nonsports · #10 03-28-2020, 10:00 AM

and while I'd like to address some of your more off topic and slanted diatribes - I think you should find a politically oriented site. No wonder that people that want to discuss baseball cards block you and the vitriolic and often condescending commentary.

Baseball Fan · #11 03-28-2020, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

First - Andre's story is an amazing one, definitely check it out.

OK, so finally someone brings something to the table other then "you're an IDIOT, your an a--hole." I've been hearing that for years, come up with something more clever folks.

Ok, great point on the NBA, just amazing that all this shutdown stuff started with that. But I didn't hear CNN calling for a massive shutdown before this or anyone really, so hard to blame the President. Think about it, was he supposed to close the country while the IDIOT Democrats were wasting time impeaching him.

Hi Shoeless,

Did you just do the same thing?

Dpeck100 · #12 03-27-2020, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

Is there a reason the president isn't enforcing the defense production act? He goes on a tirade against GM today because the they admit they can't produce and at a higher than expected cost.

Would this be some kind of demerit...or tarnish on his precious legacy?

Oh and check out this sports card!

If drinking was a sport Andre would be the greatest of all time.

That is obviously my card and it isn't going down in value.

Duluth Eskimo · #13 03-27-2020, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100

If drinking was a sport Andre would be the greatest of all time.

That is obviously my card and it isn't going down in value.

I won�t add to the arguement, but I will say if you have not seen the documentary (ESPN I think) on the life of Andre the Giant you are doing ourself a disservice. It�s one of the best I have ever seen related to sports. Plenty of time to watch now too.

Dpeck100 · #14 03-27-2020, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Is there a reason the president isn't enforcing the defense production act? He goes on a tirade against GM today because the they admit they can't produce and at a higher than expected cost.

Would this be some kind of demerit...or tarnish on his precious legacy?

Oh and check out this sports card!

Here is a sports card for you. I have a similar situation with Tyson rookies.

ullmandds · #15 03-27-2020, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Here is a sports card for you. I have a similar situation with Tyson rookies.

I gotta get me one of them tyson rookies!!!

Shoeless Moe · #16 03-27-2020, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Here is a sports card for you. I have a similar situation with Tyson rookies.

Italian version? Better soak that in bleach!

Dpeck100 · #17 03-27-2020, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Italian version? Better soak that in bleach!

Yes I have mostly Italian backs. I have this 10, 5 PSA 9's and an 8. I want to upgrade my UK back that is an 8 at some point to a 10 when I can. I still have one raw beater I was planning on getting sighed. At one point I had quite a few more but sold some along the way.

Unfortunately there is a lot of confusion on this sticker.

The Italian back is from 1986 and the UK back is from 87. Many are mislabeled so you have to make sure you get a back scan.

gawaintheknight · #18 03-28-2020, 03:35 PM

My plan would be to listen to the experts and do what they say. But, of course, this would require Trump to admit he doesn't know what he's talking about, and he can't ever do that - he always has to present himself as the world's greatest expert on everything. Which makes him either a pathological liar or a pathological narcissist, or maybe both.

https://www.axios.com/everything-tru...7f42bcf1e.html

Ted

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

and Mikey don't be so sure on this if America shuts down for 6, 12 months. You made your comments after a few good days of the Market.

Now everyone is like phew, at least the economy while taking a hit won't fall apart completely.

WRONG!!! It could very well continue to sink lower and lower if we choose the shut it down for too long.

This is a WAR. War on the virus and in wars you lose lives, now I can say the politically correct thing and say every life matters, if we lose just one its too many. Everyone says yay, pats on the back, Sorry folks how many wars do you lose 1 life?

We are gonna lose a shit ton.

The President has a tremendously (even insanely) tough job balancing this. And all you f-cks who criticize him on this, let's hear your plan?

gawaintheknight · #19 03-28-2020, 03:56 PM

Meanwhile here are the experts Trump is consulting with:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alex-...b6256a7a2b0181

Ted

Quote:

Originally Posted by gawaintheknight

My plan would be to listen to the experts and do what they say. But, of course, this would require Trump to admit he doesn't know what he's talking about, and he can't ever do that - he always has to present himself as the world's greatest expert on everything. Which makes him either a pathological liar or a pathological narcissist, or maybe both.

https://www.axios.com/everything-tru...7f42bcf1e.html

Ted

Shoeless Moe · #20 03-28-2020, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gawaintheknight

Meanwhile here are the experts Trump is consulting with:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alex-...b6256a7a2b0181

Ted

That is hilarious!!!! He probably just called Arod to do a Costanza opposite thing. Like when you ask Jeter advice on a trade. Do the opposite.

.....but I've been saying all along one call to Ditka, and this thing is gone.

Shoeless Moe · #21 03-28-2020, 04:57 PM

NFL draft still on, not postponed. Love that. Well played Roger!

Need some sports other then horse racing and Wuhan & Hong Kong Ultimate Fighting.

Going through withdrawals.

Dpeck100 · #22 03-28-2020, 05:12 PM

I was bored and just listed a few cards and just saw on my phone a lot sold and was paid for almost instantly.

Bas Rutten wrestling cards from Japan.

Just about paid for the whole box I broke with one card from it that I got graded. I love card grading!!

Shoeless Moe · #23 03-28-2020, 05:15 PM

little known fact

....Bas Rutten was in an episode of King of Queens.

MattyC · #24 03-28-2020, 05:25 PM

I find it hard to put any stock in any PWCC or Probstein sales these days� or hardly any point of sale for that matter, because the bottom line is there is rampant shill bidding and fake sales.

howard38 · #25 03-28-2020, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

NFL draft still on, not postponed. Love that. Well played Roger!

Need some sports other then horse racing and Wuhan & Hong Kong Ultimate Fighting.

Going through withdrawals.

My sports book has been hit so hard that they sent me an e-mail to let me know there is a pro floorball league still playing somewhere in Europe.

Dpeck100 · #26 03-28-2020, 07:56 PM

Just sold another card at full asking price. I must be pricing these too low.

Shoeless Moe · #27 03-28-2020, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by howard38

My sports book has been hit so hard that they sent me an e-mail to let me know there is a pro floorball league still playing somewhere in Europe.

HaHa, what the hell is Floorball, thought that was a typo until I Googled it.

If you need a gambling fix, most US Horse Racing Tracks are still running. Just no fans, but who cares about that for now.

Tonight there is racing in Oklahoma as well as California, also in Japan and Austrailia.

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