Just how Rare are Vintage Cards (Like How much Rarer is a T212 vs T206)?

x2drich2000 · #1 03-31-2020, 09:54 PM

To follow up on my previous post, the point of using a high profile, highly collected player like Young, Cobb, Mathewson as an example allows us to make the general assumption that more of that player are graded vs non graded (these are likely to be closer to 100% being graded) and that the ratio between graded/non-graded cards of that player is somewhat consistent between different sets. As long as these assumptions are close (this of course is much more difficult on rarer sets), the relative scarcity between the different sets for that player, whether graded or not, can be determined. There are still going to be other factors at play such as different series, short prints, etc that will play with the actual numbers a bit, but the idea is there. Also, this obviously can't be done to compare a set like t212 vs t206 since none (?) of the players are in both sets.

With regard to print numbers, I think you are thinking of Scot Readers t206 book. Here's an old thread that discussed the E sets compared to each other and to T206s and includes some guesses/thoughts on populations:https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=83340

Marckus99 · #2 03-31-2020, 10:03 PM

There easily still exists 50,000 of each T206, e.i. 81 Donruss.
Easily.

T206Collector · #3 04-01-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marckus99

There easily still exists 50,000 of each T206, e.i. 81 Donruss.
Easily.

Scott Reader has put the number of each T206 remaining in the 3,000-6,000 range. That seems more likely to me, but perhaps the super prints like Cobb Red and Yellow Chance are north of 10,000 extant.

See page 28:

http://www.oldcardboard.com/t/t206/I...al-edition.pdf

brianp-beme · #4 04-01-2020, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Also, this obviously can't be done to compare a set like t212 vs t206 since none (?) of the players are in both sets.

Thought I would comment on this tiny sliver I extracted...there are at least 7 players that appeared in both the T206 set and in at least one of the three Obak issues. I knew that there were a few, but I double-checked an old thread on here that listed these seven:

Shad Barry
Izzy Hoffman
Hunky Shaw
Fred Abbott
Frank Arellanes
Roy Brashear
Chick Gandil

Brian

PhillyFan1883 · #5 04-01-2020, 03:53 AM

To the OP�s question searching PSA and SGC�s pop reports would be a good starting point to see the rarity and compare. I may be stating the obvious, but I always find it helpful when I am researching cards. Won�t account for raws of Course, but old cardboard dot com is another great resource.

x2drich2000 · #6 04-01-2020, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Thought I would comment on this tiny sliver I extracted...there are at least 7 players that appeared in both the T206 set and in at least one of the three Obak issues. I knew that there were a few, but I double-checked an old thread on here that listed these seven:

Shad Barry
Izzy Hoffman
Hunky Shaw
Fred Abbott
Frank Arellanes
Roy Brashear
Chick Gandil

Brian

Thanks for the correction Brian, I wasn't 100% when I stated none, and actually am quite surprised there are that many.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #7 04-01-2020, 08:09 AM

There are other major leaguers in T212 that appear in sets besides T206 to aid in cross comparisons. Ping Bodie comes to mind who is in T207 and Cracker Jack at the very least.

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