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Old 04-01-2020, 02:38 PM
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President Trump donated his salary toward the Virus......meanwhile the Democratic Party just spent $6 Million dollars on Ads against Trump.

Had they spent that $6 million to aid in the Virus fight, using that toward masks or supplies for hospitals, they get mine and a lot more people's respect, and votes.

Blowing that much on Ads in a time of crisis, just mind-blowing.
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Old 04-01-2020, 02:55 PM
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President Trump donated his salary toward the Virus......meanwhile the Democratic Party just spent $6 Million dollars on Ads against Trump.

Had they spent that $6 million to aid in the Virus fight, using that toward masks or supplies for hospitals, they get mine and a lot more people's respect, and votes.

Blowing that much on Ads in a time of crisis, just mind-blowing.
This is why politics is dumb...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...mp/ncna1174041
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:25 PM
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Then both sides are a bunch idiots. Amazing.


And I don't want to hear they can't use that money for anything else. That's BS.


You use that money toward the crisis and someone is gonna complain?

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Old 04-01-2020, 04:50 PM
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CBS News admits 'mistake' after airing footage of overcrowded Italian hospital in report about NYC

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-ne...ually-in-italy

https://www.wcbm.com/2020/04/01/cbs-...ort-about-nyc/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ian-hospital-/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/cbs-n...port-about-nyc

Glad to see they admitted it, but you can bet your ass they were called out on it first by many.

Info-tainment, people, because fear/hate sells and it helps their ratings.
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Old 04-01-2020, 05:05 PM
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CBS News admits 'mistake' after airing footage of overcrowded Italian hospital in report about NYC

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-ne...ually-in-italy

https://www.wcbm.com/2020/04/01/cbs-...ort-about-nyc/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ian-hospital-/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/cbs-n...port-about-nyc

Glad to see they admitted it, but you can bet your ass they were called out on it first by many.

Info-tainment, people, because fear/hate sells and it helps their ratings.
This is your take away right now? There’s been far worse passed off as “news”, and I give them at least some credit for owning it, unlike several other media outlets when confronted with falsehoods.

Meanwhile 391 people died in a day in NYC or Corvona related illnesss (FACT). My sister was on a conference call last week with other surgeons/doctors, and they’re prepping for models which have that potentially growing to 4-5K/day very soon. This was not media selling a story, these were medical professionals, experts using best available data. Ideally well minded/intentioned people working very hard, and/or simply behaving as instructed will help prevent that from happening there or anywhere else.

Forrest through the trees.
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Old 04-01-2020, 05:11 PM
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Newsom gave a live address to the state to tell us about the statewide lockdown, and complimented the Pres for the recent support. This was seen by millions and reported on. Stop trying to make shit up (“CNN shredding”) to fan the flames, further polarize.

Speaking of flames, the governor even held his composure after Trump had just accused him of “poor forrest management”, and then with all present twice called the town or Paradise, the town of “Pleasure”. That said, he didn’t have to speak up, an exhausted firefighter corrected him on camera. Roughly 90% of that “town” of about 25-30K’s structures had just been completely destroyed.

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Old 04-01-2020, 05:21 PM
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Newsom gave a live address to the state to tell us about the statewide lockdown, and complimented the Pres for the recent support. This was seen by millions and reported on. Stop trying to make shit up (“CNN shredding”) to fan the flames, further polarize.

Speaking of flames, the governor even held his composure after Trump had just accused him of “poor forrest management”, and then with all present twice called the town or Paradise, the town of “Pleasure”. That said, he didn’t have to speak up, an exhausted firefighter corrected him on camera. Roughly 90% of that “town” of about 25-30K’s structures had just been completely destroyed.


oh good, please post it, I can't find it.
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Old 04-01-2020, 07:30 PM
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This is your take away right now? There’s been far worse passed off as “news”, and I give them at least some credit for owning it, unlike several other media outlets when confronted with falsehoods.

Meanwhile 391 people died in a day in NYC or Corvona related illnesss (FACT). My sister was on a conference call last week with other surgeons/doctors, and they’re prepping for models which have that potentially growing to 4-5K/day very soon. This was not media selling a story, these were medical professionals, experts using best available data. Ideally well minded/intentioned people working very hard, and/or simply behaving as instructed will help prevent that from happening there or anywhere else.

Forrest through the trees.
No, the message I was trying to convey was don't always believe what you are told, even if it is from MSM, and to always keep an open mind and do some research yourself before you draw conclusions.

Just like ABC showed footage from a NJ gun range and tried to pass it off as a war zone from Syria, there are many others out there, the majority left leaning, that do this constantly without consequence.

Were you aware of the story CNN fabricated about Nick Sandman all because he was wearing a red MAGA hat?

He just won a large settlement from them and is going after others who also portrayed him in a negative/false light.

This kid and his family had death threats against them and were told and called all sorts of things.
Did you hear anything from CNN about losing this case and having to pay out millions to him? I highly doubt it but we should have.
Here's the real story. I assume you are familiar with the fake one they made to make Trump and all his supporters look like evil bastards?

I despise CNN and MSNBC and a few others up here as well. Their blatant lies and manipulation bothers me when I see people get gut hooked into believing them thinking they are getting the truth and the whole story.

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Old 04-01-2020, 08:14 PM
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CBS News admits 'mistake' after airing footage of overcrowded Italian hospital in report about NYC

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-ne...ually-in-italy

https://www.wcbm.com/2020/04/01/cbs-...ort-about-nyc/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ian-hospital-/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/cbs-n...port-about-nyc

Glad to see they admitted it, but you can bet your ass they were called out on it first by many.

Info-tainment, people, because fear/hate sells and it helps their ratings.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-times/ -- MIXED (below VOX's Mostly Factual Rating)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/ -- MIXED (below VOX's Mostly Factual Rating) - and far right leaning

WCBM is a far right radio wing of Fox News

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/ - MIXED (below VOX's Mostly Factual Rating) - and far right leaning

How are you going to call out a VOX link for being infotainment because it has a LEFT bias and then post 4 links to websites with a RIGHT bias, each of which have lower factual ratings than VOX?
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:46 PM
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-times/ -- MIXED (below VOX's Mostly Factual Rating)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/ -- MIXED (below VOX's Mostly Factual Rating) - and far right leaning

WCBM is a far right radio wing of Fox News

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/ - MIXED (below VOX's Mostly Factual Rating) - and far right leaning

How are you going to call out a VOX link for being infotainment because it has a LEFT bias and then post 4 links to websites with a RIGHT bias, each of which have lower factual ratings than VOX?
No, just showing many other news outlets are also covering this story so it is highly unlikely it is made up B.S.

Although the Washington Times has a very strong right editorial bias, they report straight news with a much lower bias.


FOX: however straight news reporting is generally reliable, therefore we rate them Mixed for factual reporting.


Vox: Overall, we rate Vox Left Biased due to wording and story selection that routinely favors the left. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High, due to two failed fact checks, with only one offering a correction.

I'll trust/believe the 2 above Vox first but like I also said or alluded to earlier, I am pretty much fed up with anything MSM has to say anymore.
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Old 04-01-2020, 11:42 PM
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This is gonna be Fauci and Trump in another week......



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Old 04-01-2020, 04:58 PM
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Jake Tapper (CNN) interviewed Governor Gavin Newsom (Democrat) today and he tried to get him to say negative things about Trump, and goes so how would you evaluate the President's job so far. Newsom, even shocked me a bit, goes he's done a great job and goes on praising him. The look on Tapper's face, he never saw that coming. And oddly enough I can't find it or I'd post the link. CNN is probably shredding it in the back room right now.

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Old 04-01-2020, 02:59 PM
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President Trump donated his salary toward the Virus......meanwhile the Democratic Party just spent $6 Million dollars on Ads against Trump.

Had they spent that $6 million to aid in the Virus fight, using that toward masks or supplies for hospitals, they get mine and a lot more people's respect, and votes.

Blowing that much on Ads in a time of crisis, just mind-blowing.
They can't. That is donated money and specifically earmaked toward the democratic campaign. Big trouble if they use it for anything else.
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They can't. That is donated money and specifically earmaked toward the democratic campaign. Big trouble if they use it for anything else.
Though at least prominant one man has been known to use charitable donations to their own foundation to cover personal obligations, legal debt, etc, and not get into too much trouble.
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They can't. That is donated money and specifically earmaked toward the democratic campaign. Big trouble if they use it for anything else.
Just stamp every mask with "vote democrat" And there you go, a useful campaign promotional item.
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Yeah, about that salary donation thing....

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/4/2116447...hs-coronavirus

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President Trump donated his salary toward the Virus......meanwhile the Democratic Party just spent $6 Million dollars on Ads against Trump.

Had they spent that $6 million to aid in the Virus fight, using that toward masks or supplies for hospitals, they get mine and a lot more people's respect, and votes.

Blowing that much on Ads in a time of crisis, just mind-blowing.
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Would you make dismissive comments like “it’s just like the flu, people die from the flu”, and insinuate that it will just blow over when the weather warms up, while scientists and health officials were still fully trying to assess these things.

Falsely inform the public that we’re weeks/months away from a cure, while expert Anthony Fauci is saying it will be at least a year or more before one is developed and fully approved for use.

Make funny jokes like “I can’t touch my face, I miss my face(haha)”, and focus oddly on performance of the stock market- “it looks great”, “they told me I set a record today” while other places like N Korea were taking very serious steps to broadly test, then broadly track all those tested, especially those testing positive w/ a tracking app?

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Yeah, about that salary donation thing....

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/4/2116447...hs-coronavirus

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It blows me away what people will believe anymore. So many fake news outlets out there nowadays, one can only view them as Info-tainment and nothing more.

Main stream media (MSM) is the same way, all out to influence and brainwash your mind.

CNN, MSNB, NY Times, the list goes on and on. All out to get Trump like a bunch of petulant children who are still struggling with the fact the Dems lost the last election.
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Old 04-02-2020, 06:36 AM
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Obviously I'm not going to change your mind, but take a story like this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...a4e_story.html

Trump is ripping off the taxpayers by overcharging the Secret Service for hotel rooms at his properties. That money goes into his pocket.

Now, is your position that this information is false? It's based on official government documents, so if it's false, either the Secret Service is lying or the Post is forging documents. Do you have any reason to believe that's true?

Or is it your position that they shouldn't report a story like this at all? If not, why not? It's easy to pick out a couple of things that the media has gotten wrong, but then to suggest that everything else they report on is also wrong, or lies, doesn't make any sense. It's like saying "Well, they say that guy is a great surgeon, but one or two of his patients die every year."

So I guess I don't understand what you mean by "fake news" other than "they report stories that make Trump look bad."

Oh, and also, the last election was in 2018 and the Democrats won that one.

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It blows me away what people will believe anymore. So many fake news outlets out there nowadays, one can only view them as Info-tainment and nothing more.

Main stream media (MSM) is the same way, all out to influence and brainwash your mind.

CNN, MSNB, NY Times, the list goes on and on. All out to get Trump like a bunch of petulant children who are still struggling with the fact the Dems lost the last election.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vox/

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