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Old 04-06-2020, 12:16 AM
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Congratulations from me as well!
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Thank you for all the responses on and outside the forum.

George, you are quite correct on the extreme toll catching Radbourn day-to-day would take on Barney in 1884. Catching was a punishing position, among my favorite books, "Catcher" by Peter Morris helps put this into perspective.

Mike, you should be able to see all 21 Detroit subjects in my original email. I split it into three images, one for each year, at end of my post. I'll do one better for you, here is a snap shot of the 72 different N172 poses in small format.

1887 - 28 of 28 poses



1888 - 16 of 30 poses

The Pitchers - Baldwin, Conway, & Getzien


The Position Players - Gilligan, Scheibeck, and White


1889 - 11 of 14 poses



The 1888 Detroits are very tough. I'm not aware of anyone completing a run of any single player outside of Gilligan's lone pose. It is far easier to complete some of them with team change cards but nearly impossible to complete an all Detroit 1888 run (of course, many advanced collectors actually prefer to have representation from all teams and avoid collecting all with same team). If you happen to have a Detroit pose I need I would love to hear from you, even if there is no chance of trade, it is quite gratifying to know some of the poses are out there.
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Congrats, Joe! Love the photos and background info.
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In your Old Judge book you list two Detroit poses of Gilligan 189-1 and 189-2. Is the 189-1 pose a N173 cabinet only pose and can't be found in the N172 set ?
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In your Old Judge book you list two Detroit poses of Gilligan 189-1 and 189-2. Is the 189-1 pose a N173 cabinet only pose and can't be found in the N172 set ?
That is correct Mike, regarding Gilligan's poses with Detroit, 189-1 is only known in cabinet form whereas 189-2 is only known as an N172. Given the rarity, it would not surprise me if Goodwin issued both poses as N172s but perhaps pose 1 is still waiting to be found and catalogued or has been lost to time.
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