1966 Topps Series Release Dates ... Approx?

ALBB · #1 04-11-2020, 04:49 PM

not quite understanding that ?

Please just break it down using one line..lets say 66T 7 series..523-598...what are the other numbers on that line ?? Is that the # of the checklist card ?

Blackie · #2 04-11-2020, 05:08 PM

Great reading!! Thank you. Working on this set... anyone have cards to trade etc... lmk

obcbeatle · #3 04-11-2020, 07:29 PM

SNIP
1966
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 34
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 101
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 183
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 279
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 363
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 444
7 523 - 598 507-598 0 517
SNIP

I'll go out on a limb here :-)

1966
Series 1 was cards 1 - 109, Checklist said 1-88, that's a difference of 21 cards, I have no clue what 34 means :-) March/April release?
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 101 April/May release?
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 183 May/June release?
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 279 June/July release?
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 363 July/August release?
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 444 August/Sept. release?
7 523 - 598 507-598 0 517 Sept. release?

I'm obviously grasping at straws here :-) Seems like one of the Summer series releases would have been a TON of cards for that series as I always seemed to get a bunch of dupes in the Summer :-) For example, in 1968 I had a lot of dupes for a specific series, even of stars and hofers in that series. But probably more likely I just bought more cards in that series, hence I had fewer dupes in other series. Which kind of relates to my original question of trying to determine when I might have bought cards for each series (like a monthly timeline), then scan the cards I pulled and figure out when that year I pulled them. Again, I probably have way too much time on my hands right now :-)

mikemb · #4 04-11-2020, 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=obcbeatle;1970155]SNIP
1966
1 1 - 109 1-88 21 34
2 110 - 196 89-176 20 101
3 197 - 283 177-264 19 183
4 284 - 370 265-352 18 279
5 371 - 446 353-429 17 363
6 447 - 522 430-506 16 444
7 523 - 598 507-598 0 517
SNIP

I'll go out on a limb here :-)

1966
Series 1 was cards 1 - 109, Checklist said 1-88, that's a difference of 21 cards, I have no clue what 34 means :-) /QUOTE]

The 34 is the number of the 1st series checklist.

Mike

bb66 · #5 04-11-2020, 08:48 PM

The last number in each column is the checklist card number.#34 Checklist 1

bb66 · #6 04-11-2020, 08:51 PM

Sorry Mike you got that!!!! That is some real good info. My brother and I had no clue how Topps kept luring us on with cards from the next series showing up. We didn't get the series concept at all.

toppcat · #7 04-12-2020, 10:22 AM

It's a little grainy as I saved a Spreadsheet as a JPG but this is easier to read. You can see a few things:

1) 1958 set was going to end at 440, then they signed Stan Musial. That'st my theory at least: http://www.thetoppsarchives.com/2010...ing-slots.html

2) From 1958-66 I think the press runs are one less than the number of series. Looks like they printed 88 extras in 1958 before adding the final series. So in 1959 they had 110 extra cards across six press runs, which presented as seven series on the checklist cards. I'd need to see a lot of uncut sheets to prove this out, it's just a theory. UPDATE 4/13: Or you could just keep the lag at (usually) 22 cards. I should have added "possibly" in the first sentence.

3) Then there were 111 extras from 1961-66 where I think a checklist card is increasing the count by 1. Note the ratcheting down by one number per series on the differential between the likely press run and the series shown on the checklist.

4) In 1967 it looks like they ended up actually printing seven series across seven press runs. This occurred through 1970.

5) For 1971-72 it's looking like six press runs across six series.

Appreciate any thoughts or competing theories. You would need to see each sheet for each press run each year to fully check this all out.

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