Schrödinger's Card

[gman]

Are y'all aware of any 1968 Topps 3D cards that have been encapsulated only to show signs of cracking years later?

[71buc]

I live on the left coast. I have a few hundred of these from my childhood. All of them remain untracked. Ironically I purchased a 1970 Bench and a 1971 Mays slabbed as PSA 9s. Both of them cracked within a year.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by 71buc

I live on the left coast. I have a few hundred of these from my childhood. All of them remain untracked. Ironically I purchased a 1970 Bench and a 1971 Mays slabbed as PSA 9s. Both of them cracked within a year.

That sucks. Did those come from sellers on the east coast? It's a shame what a crapshoot buying Kellogg's cards has become. Too bad.

[savedfrommyspokes]

The images seen above are the reason why the 73 Kellogg's set is my favorite Kellogg's set.

[mortimer brewster]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

The images seen above are the reason why the 73 Kellogg's set is my favorite Kellogg's set.

Same here. It's the only Kellogg's set I have completed. Several ungraded cards I purchased in the past few years have suffered post purchase cracking.
1972 Torre 1980 Ryan. Who knows what environmental conditions these cards were subjected to when circulated. Cards I purchased in the late 1970's early 1980's are all fine.

[metroac]

Doesn't all this constitute an argument against slabbing these Kellogg's issues? I don't see many posts from folks saying that their slabbed cards are fine.

[Exhibitman]

I would never buy a slabbed one again. The reality is that if the card has any curl it is probably going to crack at some point. You can't tell whether that is the case in a slab. The modern versions of lenticular or 3D cards have a completely different feel to them, typically thicker and stiffer, and I would be surprised if they had the same issues going forward.

[71buc]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

That sucks. Did those come from sellers on the east coast? It's a shame what a crapshoot buying Kellogg's cards has become. Too bad.

Yes they both originated from NY

[JollyElm]

Ran across this Billy Williams on eBay today, so I thought I'd bump this old thread for some laughs.

He suffers from the same fate plaguing the Tom Seaver card, and could really use some Botox...

1972kelloggswilliams.jpg


And every day is a fine day to look at this 1974 Topps #456 Dave Winfield rookie card. The poster child for the question, "Does PSA ever put multiple qualifiers on a label?"

The label indicates it has a stain, but the image itself is falling off the side of the card. Did the people at PSA flip a coin to determine which qualifier should be put on the label? Is there a hierarchy? (Here's where someone who takes themselves way too seriously is a going to post the official PSA hierarchy of qualifiers to enlighten us. Ugh.)

1974toppswinfield.jpg

I hope no one cracks it out of the slab, uses pantyhose to remove the stain, and then resubmits it only to wait a couple of years to have it returned with an OC qualifier. What a terrible waste of a pair of pantyhose.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

"Does PSA ever put multiple qualifiers on a label?"
The label indicates it has a stain, but the image itself is falling off the side of the card. Did the people at PSA flip a coin to determine which qualifier should be put on the label? Is there a hierarchy?

If you want the true answer, here's what I understand to be the case: PSA never puts multiple qualifiers on a flip. The second damage would decrease the card grade and the first qualifier would remain.
The qualifier that is put on the flip, according to what I read, is the LEAST obvious one. So on that card, if they were following the rules, it would have gotten like a 3(ST) since the miscut/off-centeredness is obvious. However, I would bet that since it got an 8Q, it may not actually have a stain but the flip is a typo/mechanical error.

[Casey2296]

I have a 70 Clemente 3-d that I collected as a kid sitting in a binder pocket, it's pristine and beautiful. I don't dare touch it, pull it out of the sleeve to scan it, never even stare at it directly always with a sideways glance and never too long for fear of it cracking like a picture of Dorian Gray.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by gman

Are y'all aware of any 1968 Topps 3D cards that have been encapsulated only to show signs of cracking years later?

My Swoboda PSA 6 has a developing crack running from the left border through his hands and I've seen others with it in this spot as wellas well. It also has pull marks and possibly a second crack developing between the team circle and cap.

[ALR-bishop]

I have a set of the Topps 68 3D cards. Only 1/2 of them are graded. So far no issues but wonder if they are more or less likely to crack graded.