A 1952 Topps complete set. Starting "the" ultimate post war project

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by cardsagain74

It looks like a white back to me? And PSA didn't designate it as a gray back

Just guessing, does look like a white back. Pretty nice other than the hole!

[irv]

Originally Posted by cardsagain74

It still seems a bit off to me though, especially since that bidding at the very end didn't look like the typical budget-oriented collectors going after it.

Then I wondered if it was somehow a restoration project, but even though the corners/edges look great, the upper-left keeps it from being pristine.

I dunno. Maybe prices are inching up too.

This is what I got for mine in mid-March. It seemed like a more standard pretty good deal for set building....$102 for a typical 4

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-...C/402134526736

Yeah, there could be something more that, especially since you were watching it all unfold before you.

Truthfully, I think you did very well on the 4 you won. I no longer bid on anything from PWCC and rarely watch anymore, but that's a nice score, imo.

Curious, John, what does shipping show for you or how much did you pay for shipping? "One" of the reasons for me for no longer bidding is their crazy/expensive shipping fees. For me, your card would have cost me $35 U.S. to have that card shipped to me. $35 U.S. equates to $50ish for me.

[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by irv

Yeah, there could be something more that, especially since you were watching it all unfold before you.

Truthfully, I think you did very well on the 4 you won. I no longer bid on anything from PWCC and rarely watch anymore, but that's a nice score, imo.

Curious, John, what does shipping show for you or how much did you pay for shipping? "One" of the reasons for me for no longer bidding is their crazy/expensive shipping fees. For me, your card would have cost me $35 U.S. to have that card shipped to me. $35 U.S. equates to $50ish for me.

I hate using pwcc or probstein too, and don't very often. And never would for a cadillac card. But for a 100 dollar PSA 4, occasionally I'll bite the bullet.

Shipping was five bucks. Their rates are always a little high, but it's not too drastic for Americans. Charging that much to send to Canada though? You can barely fight the collecting (or especially buy & sell) war with those amounts. Like having one hand tied behind your back

[irv]

Originally Posted by cardsagain74

I hate using pwcc or probstein too, and don't very often. And never would for a cadillac card. But for a 100 dollar PSA 4, occasionally I'll bite the bullet.

Shipping was five bucks. Their rates are always a little high, but it's not too drastic for Americans. Charging that much to send to Canada though? You can barely fight the collecting (or especially buy & sell) war with those amounts. Like having one hand tied behind your back

It certainly is. I've seen sales end, like one recently from Probstein, where the card sold for $14 dollars but his shipping, at that time, was also $35 dollars.

Like I mentioned in that post, I would have jumped all over that card as I think it undersold, or undersold compared to what I would have paid, but his shipping fees nipped that thought right in the bud.

I mainly stick with one U.S. seller, who, until recently, was only charging $3.00 dollars to ship, but with the CDN dollar still in the crapper, I have been sticking lately with just purchasing cards from Canada.

[cardsagain74]

Some more commons/minors picked up.

A lot of my remaining low numbers are the 251-310 series. I'm surprised that the first series commons still have a higher SMR. Those have been pretty easy.

244/407

[irv]

Originally Posted by cardsagain74

Some more commons/minors picked up.

A lot of my remaining low numbers are the 251-310 series. I'm surprised that the first series commons still have a higher SMR. Those have been pretty easy.

244/407

There was a nice uptick in those cards recently and posted in SMR. I am not sure how often or how accurate they update or follow sales, but that was what I noticed when I recently viewed the site for the first time in a long time.

Following some of the previous GM sales a while ago, I also thought some cards did very very well but most were EX/EX+ and most very well centered.

[cardsagain74]

Added a few commons/minors and a few high numbers. Figured an overall update would fit around any time a new 10% more threshold is hit. At least until it's basically all high numbers left, or when major cards are picked up.

Now at just over 60% completion, it's becoming more of a set-to-be to flip through. I'm glad that I have this mix of grade 1.5-5. Naturally it makes the cost a lot more reasonable to use lower grade cards, but these non-beaters still show well since the minor to mediocre creases and so-so corners aren't as obvious in the topholders (you know how it goes). Plus all of the grade 4-5 low number HOFers in it makes you feel like there's plenty of decent quality that's nicer than "low" grade, too.

Still need Pafko and 78 of the 97 highs, including all the key high #s

Avg condition:

Low number big cards: 4.2
Low number commons/minors: 2.5
High number commons: 2.7

Total cost: $5350. Total resale value: $7030

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[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by irv

There was a nice uptick in those cards recently and posted in SMR. I am not sure how often or how accurate they update or follow sales, but that was what I noticed when I recently viewed the site for the first time in a long time.

Following some of the previous GM sales a while ago, I also thought some cards did very very well but most were EX/EX+ and most very well centered.

Yep I'm not sure what it is, but it doesn't follow what I've experienced. I know SMR will never be close to ideal, but these are more off than I would've expected. And it's the same with the semis as the commons. Like this snapshot (grade 5 prices):

268 Bob Lemon (HOF) 55
277 Early Wynn (HOF 55
3 Hank Thompson 50
7 Wayne Terwilliger 50
9 Bobby Hogue 50
15 Johnny Pesky 50
22 Dom DiMaggio 50
57 Ed Lopat 50
79 Gerald Staley 50
80 Herman Wehmeier 50
243 Larry Doby (HOF) 50
246 George Kell (HOF) 50

Those low series were mostly easy and pretty cheap. but I haven't come close to finding the Lemon or Wynn that I wanted, and no Kell or Doby yet either even though they aren't semi-highs.

Doby especially commands a higher price. Understandably you'll pay twice as much for him in my grade range as just about every other $50 low series one there, which are all treated as bottom level commons except for maybe a shade more for Dimaggio and Pesky.