A valuable lesson - eBay fraud + options

hcv123 · #1 05-01-2020, 10:05 AM

Re: OP -
1) I looked up tmr_sports on Ebay and nothing came up? Could you double check and respond with their Ebay name?
2) You said he had "reputable feedback" and "more on that later" but did not elaborate - please do.
3) I would definitely send the card back - the only thing more you have to potentially lose is return shipping with the possibility of getting a refund doing so - as another member asked and relevant to this opinion is the value of the card - The closer the value of the card comes to the cost of return shipping, the less of a good idea it would be to return. Assuming the cost of shipping is way less than the $$ you sent, then definitely return it
4) Again related to the value of the card - if it was hundreds or more - likely worth a shot to involve the police - if under $100 - probably wiser to just take your lumps and move on.
5) I use PPFF as a buyer and seller regularly - WITH awareness. As mentioned by someone else - as a buyer I will only send FF if I have done business with or know the person or if the amount is low enough and I feel comfortable "risking it" (knowing it is a risk). I would NOT use Ebay feedback as the sole source of "feedback" in deciding to send ff. I have done thousands of transactions over 22 years on and off Ebay and on Net 54 and outside of a really messed up situation in the early days of Paypal and no buyer protection where I got screwed out of a lot of money by Paypal, all of my buying and selling transactions have been smooth.

Jobu · #2 05-01-2020, 10:20 AM

Send it back requiring a direct signature so you know who got it (or at least have a better chance of knowing). Tracking only gives less proof.

There are a number of threads about this type of thing. The short version is that sometimes you can convince Paypal to take your money back, but my impression is that it always takes a lot of effort and is not always successful.

T206.org · #3 05-01-2020, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123

Re: OP -
1) I looked up tmr_sports on Ebay and nothing came up? Could you double check and respond with their Ebay name?
2) You said he had "reputable feedback" and "more on that later" but did not elaborate - please do.

He said kmr_sports:
https://www.ebay.com/usr/kmr_sports

buymycards · #4 05-01-2020, 11:23 AM

Good feedback? He has 23 feedbacks as a seller. 2 neutrals and 2 negatives.

charlietheexterminator · #5 05-01-2020, 11:40 AM

If you paid ppff with PayPal funds, PayPal can not help you. If you used a credit card to pay through PayPal, contact your credit card company and post a complaint and stop payment. Reporting him to eBay is useless.

After that, now you can send the card back with tracking and keep your fingers crossed. Knowing me, I would blow up his email and eBay messages demanding a refund. Mention the 👮 Police in every message.

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