NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-16-2020, 03:00 AM
Stampsfan's Avatar
Stampsfan Stampsfan is offline
Bob Davies
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 1,149
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by doug.goodman View Post
Exactly, well said Adam.

As for the article, the author lost me when he said :

"As we know, in a neighborhood of 100 homes currently valued at $1 million each, when a desperate seller accepts $500,000, the value of the other 99 homes immediately drops to $500,000."

Not true.
Exactly. If I sell my PSA 5 Green Cobb for $200, does that mean every other PSA 5 Green Cobb is now worth $200?
__________________
Successful transactions on Net54 with balltrash, greenmonster66; Peter_Spaeth; robw1959; Stetson_1883; boxcar18; Blackie
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-16-2020, 07:40 AM
vintagebaseballcardguy's Avatar
vintagebaseballcardguy vintagebaseballcardguy is offline
R0b3rt Ch!ld3rs
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,572
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stampsfan View Post
Exactly. If I sell my PSA 5 Green Cobb for $200, does that mean every other PSA 5 Green Cobb is now worth $200?
Let's run a little experiment. You sell me that green Cobb for $200 and then we can observe how it impacts other PSA 5 green Cobbs.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-16-2020, 07:53 AM
trambo's Avatar
trambo trambo is offline
Troy Rambo
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Ohio
Posts: 638
Default

I think the author connected dots that aren't even dots. Anything is possible but there would have to be a massive series of negative events to make what the author is saying even a remote possibility. So while interesting, it doesn't seem a likely outcome for much of what he/she is saying.

But...if anyone thinks there's merit to the article and wants to sell me some higher end stuff for 10% of March 2020 prices, I'm likely in....
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-16-2020, 08:08 AM
bobbyw8469's Avatar
bobbyw8469 bobbyw8469 is offline
Robert Williams
member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 9,176
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy View Post
Let's run a little experiment. You sell me that green Cobb for $200 and then we can observe how it impacts other PSA 5 green Cobbs.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
LOL!! I am in the market for a decent Sport Kings Ruth for around $500.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-16-2020, 09:00 AM
seanofjapan's Avatar
seanofjapan seanofjapan is offline
Sean McGinty
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Japan
Posts: 517
Default

The article overstates a lot of stuff, and there is one thing which separates cards from most of the asset classes of the wealthy he uses as examples, which is that the cost of holding onto cards is zero.

If the wealthy need cash its more likely to be the yacht or second home that gets sold, since they pay taxes and maintenance, etc on them. Cards can just sit in a safe for free.
__________________
My blog about collecting cards in Japan: https://baseballcardsinjapan.blogspot.jp/
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-16-2020, 11:42 AM
Fuddjcal Fuddjcal is offline
Chuck Tapia
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,221
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by seanofjapan View Post
The article overstates a lot of stuff, and there is one thing which separates cards from most of the asset classes of the wealthy he uses as examples, which is that the cost of holding onto cards is zero.

If the wealthy need cash its more likely to be the yacht or second home that gets sold, since they pay taxes and maintenance, etc on them. Cards can just sit in a safe for free.
Exactly, I'll sell one of my classic cars, gold coins or 100 dollar bill collection before my cards. They sit for Free!!!!

DON'T BRING ME DOWN! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuiMQPc5aKA

Last edited by Fuddjcal; 05-16-2020 at 11:56 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-16-2020, 03:59 PM
oldjudge's Avatar
oldjudge oldjudge is offline
j'a'y mi.ll.e.r
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Bronx
Posts: 5,877
Default

So much of what the author says is wrong or skewed to his world view. For example, the top 10% is not a small group. In the US it is 33 million people. Only a tiny percentage are currently involved in collectibles. You could easily grow this pot, even in difficult economic times.
My only takeaway from the article is that the author is not in the top 10%, economical or as a writer.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-16-2020, 04:32 PM
Mark's Avatar
Mark Mark is offline
M@rk Lu7z
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: out west
Posts: 1,223
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oldjudge View Post
So much of what the author says is wrong or skewed to his world view. For example, the top 10% is not a small group. In the US it is 33 million people. Only a tiny percentage are currently involved in collectibles. You could easily grow this pot, even in difficult economic times.
My only takeaway from the article is that the author is not in the top 10%, economical or as a writer.
That's a great point. He talks as if 0.01% has all the assests. I think he's more of a provocateur than an economist . I also think that one of his most important claims is that a very strong stock market is unnatural and untenable. He thinks that as the recent bubble burst, the whole economy is crumbling, and collectibles will be worthless. We might fall into a lasting depression, of course. But for the last 200 years, the US economy has recovered from its downturns, the stock market has, over time, averaged 6-7 % gains, and Mantle cards have increased in value. I am not selling. everything
__________________
Seeking older Pirates bats.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-17-2020, 10:28 AM
AustinMike's Avatar
AustinMike AustinMike is offline
Michael
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 753
Default

As many have pointed out, the article has many major flaws. To me, it is kind of headache inducing. He talks about percentage of Americans, then percentage of households, then percentage of American adults. Three very different metrics. Pick a metric and stick with it.

He also talks about "the top 10% feel poorer and less confident about future gains, and thus less enthused about borrowing and spending." How wealthy are you if your assets are obtained with borrowed money? And, who borrows money to buy baseball cards?
__________________
M.!.c.h.@.3.L. . H.v.n.T
_____________________________
Don't believe everything you think
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-18-2020, 07:19 AM
OriolesHOF OriolesHOF is offline
Hal T.
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 261
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stampsfan View Post
Exactly. If I sell my PSA 5 Green Cobb for $200, does that mean every other PSA 5 Green Cobb is now worth $200?
Only if you sell it on Ebay with a BIN of $20,000 and accept best offers!
__________________
Looking for Orioles Hall of Fame game used bats.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-18-2020, 10:01 AM
2dueces 2dueces is offline
Joe
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 637
Default

If you are insuring your collection or collectibles the value is already set.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Interesting article on collectibles in general steve B Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 2 06-14-2014 11:23 AM
Truth, Lies and Videotapes Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 06-10-2007 02:28 AM
How many outright lies can you identify in this ebay listing? Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 10-23-2006 12:40 AM
Looking ahead - National Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 9 02-27-2006 01:41 PM
Heritage's Web of Lies.... Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 06-23-2005 09:12 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:31 PM.


ebay GSB