2020 topps project

[Farm_kid]

Interesting, but I haven't seen one yet that I've wanted in my PC. Since I am a collector, not an investor, I can't see any reason to get one. Now if they release a card based on T206, then there is a 99% chance I would get one. Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Cy Young. I bet these artists would love to take their hack at The Card.

[mferronibc]

Contrary to my previous post I actually think today’s Clemente is pretty awesome and might pick up one. I think that’s just the nature of the set - thinking maybe 5-10 max out of 400 I’m gonna be tempted to pull the trigger on.

[Rich Klein]

We are *NOT* the audience for these cards. I don't do anything with them but they are. as you can see from the print runs, very successful and also bring in more people into the collecting market.

On that level they are perfectly fine.

And for an intelligent perspective on these cards here is Mike Sommer's blog post on these cards.

https://waxpackhero.com/blog/topps-project-2020

[rats60]

I picked up the Oldmanalan Koufax and Clemente. I really like his work. I will probably pick up a few more, but at 20.00 each it eats into a vintage budget fast.

[mferronibc]

Thanks Rich, great link! As I’m learning more about these cards and to be able to see all the previous runs in one place many are growing on me. Prob not enough to buy past releases on the secondary market for those extraordinary prices but at least to keep an eye on the Topps site every few days so see what’s next.

For me the Beck releases are the coolest overall with the sort of mixed media look to them but did pick up an Oldmanalan Clemente today as I think it’s a beautiful card. My only hang up with his others so far is besides Mariano he seems to deviate a little too far from the original “iconic” card which seems to be the whole point.

[Deadman31]

I’m going for a complete run of Griffeys and if the make more gold cards like the Frank Thomas I’ll grab those as well.

[mferronibc]

Has Topps made any guarantees that they will not go back and print more runs of cards once they sell? Seems as the market for these is picking up and the current runs consistently get closer to the 10-20k range the originals in the 1-3k range are becoming more and more valuable (even the ones that are pretty ugly).

[KingFisk]

I almost got in on these from the jump but thought it would be a pretty big investment at $20 a pop. I had the first two in my cart and never completed the transaction.

I think most of them have been really hideous and I would not have enjoyed having them in my collection from an aesthetic point of view.

I do regret not getting in on them from a value perspective....my goodness. I really blew it here.

[Deadman31]

Originally Posted by mferronibc

Has Topps made any guarantees that they will not go back and print more runs of cards once they sell? Seems as the market for these is picking up and the current runs consistently get closer to the 10-20k range the originals in the 1-3k range are becoming more and more valuable (even the ones that are pretty ugly).

I don’t understand why you think they would do that?

[vintagewhitesox]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

We are *NOT* the audience for these cards. I don't do anything with them but they are. as you can see from the print runs, very successful and also bring in more people into the collecting market.

On that level they are perfectly fine.

And for an intelligent perspective on these cards here is Mike Sommer's blog post on these cards.

https://waxpackhero.com/blog/topps-project-2020

Great point Rich. And Mike's blog is great, and he has a really good twitter feed.
I enjoy this, I made some money on the earlier issues and enjoy the flipping aspect of it. I don't think there's enough money to sustain the crazy prices that we are seeing. I bought the Mcgwire last week and its already at $200. Insane.
I do like Ben Baller's stuff he's funny and original. But yes, most of the people on this board are not the intended target for these cards.
I hope the come out with a rendition of the 52 Mantle or more White Sox cards (Fisk Rookie, a Nellie Fox or Aparicio, etc.).

[JustinD]

I would say the investors killed this one for a while. In a year these will be .99 cards. Supply and demand will never hold even the cost after the clueless stop buying. I will buy no more until the production drops at least to 7-10k. The smart money if you think they are neat, is wait for the auctions after these are actually delivered and get them for a fiver.

I bought the Ryan and Ripken in the last week and have serious remorse.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I would say the investors killed this one for a while. In a year these will be .99 cards. Supply and demand will never hold even the cost after the clueless stop buying. I will buy no more until the production drops at least to 7-10k. The smart money if you think they are neat, is wait for the auctions after these are actually delivered and get them for a fiver.

I bought the Ryan and Ripken in the last week and have serious remorse.

Any of them you are willing to sell at .99 cents I'm a buyer. No questions asked.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Any of them you are willing to sell at .99 cents I'm a buyer. No questions asked.

As these start exceeding 100k runs they have no long term value of exceeding demand once the excitement dies down. Now the cards that had runs of 1000ish with 100k amateur collectors thinking of building the set right now? Different story.

It will die down when these prospectors are stuck with 100's of these they cant sell for cost because the news hyped these to the ceiling. I suggest buying the overproduced ones being made now in 2021 and wading back into to the 20 bucks on Topps.com later. This is Etopps squared at this moment.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I would say the investors killed this one for a while. In a year these will be .99 cards. Supply and demand will never hold even the cost after the clueless stop buying. I will buy no more until the production drops at least to 7-10k. The smart money if you think they are neat, is wait for the auctions after these are actually delivered and get them for a fiver.

I bought the Ryan and Ripken in the last week and have serious remorse.

I bought the Ted Williams because I liked the card, knowing it was going to have a high print run. 20.00 is the cost of lunch at a fast food restaurant. I don’t care about the value, but I would be shocked if you could buy them for less than
10 in the next year. I will continue to buy what I like at 20. If they become worth more than they are worth to me, I will sell. Otherwise they are part of my collection.

[bigfanNY]

If you go to the artists web sites many of them are buying 10,20,50 500!! And then they sign them and sell them for $200 to $1,000.00.
The First Trout card sold for over $2500.00 multiple times this week. And The first card an Ichiro by Ben Baller OVER $4,000.00 for a $20 card bough a few weeks ago. Lots of stories of people buying presales getting money returned. Bottom line LOTS OF STORIES ABOUT PROJECT 2020.
I might get a Trout signed by an artist I will let you know how it goes.
Jonathan