Ticket collectors, show us your tickets !

mr2686 · #1 05-22-2020, 08:33 PM

When it comes to collecting, I probably only have 2 white whales left. One I probably don't want to spend what it would cost, and the other I had never seen before. Well, leave it to our own Scott Garner to remember a communication we had several months ago. When Scott found this in his own collection, he graciously allowed me to purchase it from him. So, may I present you a ticket from the Sept 9, 1969 game between the Cubs and the Mets. Tom Seaver won his 20th, but more importantly in baseball lore, this was the game that's better known as the black cat game. That famous cat strolled past Ron Santo in the on-deck circle and then across the Cubs dugout. Much like the Billy-Goat game many years previous, it was felt by many that this moment marked the end for the Cubs. Whether it did or didn't, it still a fun part of baseball history, and now I can finally go about finishing up my 1969 Cubs project. Thanks again to Scott, a true friend and great collector.

Scott Garner · #2 05-23-2020, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mr2686

When it comes to collecting, I probably only have 2 white whales left. One I probably don't want to spend what it would cost, and the other I had never seen before. Well, leave it to our own Scott Garner to remember a communication we had several months ago. When Scott found this in his own collection, he graciously allowed me to purchase it from him. So, may I present you a ticket from the Sept 9, 1969 game between the Cubs and the Mets. Tom Seaver won his 20th, but more importantly in baseball lore, this was the game that's better known as the black cat game. That famous cat strolled past Ron Santo in the on-deck circle and then across the Cubs dugout. Much like the Billy-Goat game many years previous, it was felt by many that this moment marked the end for the Cubs. Whether it did or didn't, it still a fun part of baseball history, and now I can finally go about finishing up my 1969 Cubs project. Thanks again to Scott, a true friend and great collector.

Hey Mike,
I'm glad your Black Cat game ticket arrived safely & definitely happy to help a great hobby friend find one of his personal "white whales".

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ksfarmboy · #3 05-23-2020, 08:26 AM

Cool story and ticket. Way to go Scott for helping out a fellow collector. What is your other white whale ticket if you don’t mind sharing?

mr2686 · #4 05-23-2020, 08:58 AM

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Cool story and ticket. Way to go Scott for helping out a fellow collector. What is your other white whale ticket if you don’t mind sharing?

The other one is Catfish Hunter's perfect game ticket. I've seen about 4 on the market over the years, and i know Scott has a ticket (I also know that it won't be leaving his collection...LOL) but the price is somewhere in the 3-4k range. Not sure i want to spend that type of money these days...but you never know.

roarfrom34 · #5 05-23-2020, 09:33 AM

I was anxious to see baseball return after the strike of 1981 (as I do now) and I went to the Phillies/Cardinals game to see if Pete Rose would break the National League hit record (going into the game he was tied with Musial)....Here is my own ticket from that evening signed by Pete & Mark Littell (who surrendered the hit):

ksfarmboy · #6 05-23-2020, 12:59 PM

Good luck Mike I hope you find that ticket cheap or at least affordable.

Scott Garner · #7 05-24-2020, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by roarfrom34

I was anxious to see baseball return after the strike of 1981 (as I do now) and I went to the Phillies/Cardinals game to see if Pete Rose would break the National League hit record (going into the game he was tied with Musial)....Here is my own ticket from that evening signed by Pete & Mark Littell (who surrendered the hit):

Bill,
Nice ticket!

Trivia time:
Who was the pitcher that Pete Rose predicted he would get this milestone hit off?
Also, do you know the cool back story that surrounds that not happening the way Pete predicted it?

roarfrom34 · #8 05-24-2020, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Bill,
Nice ticket!

Trivia time:
Who was the pitcher that Pete Rose predicted he would get this milestone hit off?
Also, do you know the cool back story that surrounds that not happening the way Pete predicted it?

Scott:

I do not know the answers to those trivia questions but as a neat aside, Mark Littell told me after he gave up the hit and during the on-field ceremony with Rose & Musial, catcher Gene Tenace walked out to the mound and said "Congratulations, looks like you got your f*#%ing name in the record book again."

doug.goodman · #9 05-24-2020, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mr2686

The other one is Catfish Hunter's perfect game ticket. I've seen about 4 on the market over the years, and i know Scott has a ticket (I also know that it won't be leaving his collection...LOL) but the price is somewhere in the 3-4k range. Not sure i want to spend that type of money these days...but you never know.

I'm sorry to say that I am in possession of a Hunter perfect game ticket. It's stapled inside a scored scorecard, that is ballpoint signed on the cover by Hunter (over the "Official 1968") and some others, including Reggie Jackson.

It wasn't for sale, before I read "the price is somewhere in the 3-4k range" which I assume is for a full ticket that missed the game, not a stub that watched the whole thing, and was closer to Reggie than most people have ever been.

Doug

mr2686 · #10 05-24-2020, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I'm sorry to say that I am in possession of a Hunter perfect game ticket. It's stapled inside a scored scorecard, that is ballpoint signed on the cover by Hunter (over the "Official 1968") and some others, including Reggie Jackson.

It wasn't for sale, before I read "the price is somewhere in the 3-4k range" which I assume is for a full ticket that missed the game, not a stub that watched the whole thing, and was closer to Reggie than most people have ever been.

Doug

Nope, it's for a stub.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SCARCE-May-...cAAOSwGYNd7BQK

Scott Garner · #11 05-24-2020, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mr2686

The other one is Catfish Hunter's perfect game ticket. I've seen about 4 on the market over the years, and i know Scott has a ticket (I also know that it won't be leaving his collection...LOL) but the price is somewhere in the 3-4k range. Not sure i want to spend that type of money these days...but you never know.

Mike,
Admittedly I have seen a stub to Catfish Hunter's perfect game sell for in $4K range (large catalogue auction with a vintage signed Catfish Hunter ball), that is certainly the exception, not the rule.
Be patient, my friend...

Under $1500 is more in the normal range, from my personal experience.
FYI, I sold a duplicate stub that I had in my collection in NMT condition to another collector for $1200 within the last 2-3 years.

My 2 cents:
A lot of people list things on eBay for crazy prices that will never be realized, making it more of a museum than the online active auction site that started the whole thing...

mr2686 · #12 05-24-2020, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Mike,
Admittedly I have seen a stub to Catfish Hunter's perfect game sell for in $4K range (large catalogue auction with a vintage signed Catfish Hunter ball), that is certainly the exception, not the rule.
Be patient, my friend...

Under $1500 is more in the normal range, from my personal experience.
FYI, I sold a duplicate stub that I had in my collection in NMT condition to another collector for $1200 within the last 2-3 years.

My 2 cents:
A lot of people list things on eBay for crazy prices that will never be realized, making it more of a museum than the online active auction site that started the whole thing...

Looks like you're right. I saw another one that sold for over 3k, and then that one that I posted...but looking at 3 past auctions in the last 4 years I see that they went for anywhere from 1200 - 1800, which is actually not too bad. Maybe back in my sights after all. LOL I don't know about you Scott, but I have noticed a recent trend in some "famous" tickets to have the lowest prices I've seen in a long time. I'm thinking that some of baseball's famous or infamous events are not as appreciated by the younger collectors. Either that or maybe the ticket prices are coming back to earth when not sold for several years.

mr2686 · #13 05-24-2020, 07:50 AM

I'm curious as to the answer to the trivia question. Maybe Pete was going to wait to get the hit until he could place a bet on which pitcher? LOL
I do know an interesting fact is that the man in went past for most National League hits (San Musial) had exactly the same number of hits at home as he did on the road. Talk about consistency.

Scott Garner · #14 05-24-2020, 10:52 AM

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Looks like you're right. I saw another one that sold for over 3k, and then that one that I posted...but looking at 3 past auctions in the last 4 years I see that they went for anywhere from 1200 - 1800, which is actually not too bad. Maybe back in my sights after all. LOL I don't know about you Scott, but I have noticed a recent trend in some "famous" tickets to have the lowest prices I've seen in a long time. I'm thinking that some of baseball's famous or infamous events are not as appreciated by the younger collectors. Either that or maybe the ticket prices are coming back to earth when not sold for several years.

Mike,
It actually depends...
As I stated recently in another thread, more collectors are focused on collecting tickets. On Facebook there is a ticket collector group of younger collectors that not only are very active, but they seem to pay crazy amounts for modern tickets.

FWIW, I still subscribe to the supply & demand dictate value theory when it comes to intrinsic collectibles. Some prices are down with the pandemic, but others seem to continue to ratchet up. As you know, I collect no-hitter tickets.
Overall, tickets to older scarcer no-hit tickets continue to absolutely escalate in value.