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Old 06-05-2020, 08:56 AM
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I bought an old judge card that was ungraded, had decent eye appeal but I thought would grade as a 1. I submitted it, it graded as a 4, and is now the highest graded example in existence.

Pays to buy ungraded.

My point being, just like about anything in life, it just depends
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Old 06-05-2020, 10:45 AM
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I bought an old judge card that was ungraded, had decent eye appeal but I thought would grade as a 1. I submitted it, it graded as a 4, and is now the highest graded example in existence.

Pays to buy ungraded.

My point being, just like about anything in life, it just depends
Completely agree...

The best deals I've ever gotten have been raw/ungraded. If you do your homework, it's much more rewarding to collect that way as well.

Sure there are plenty of shady dealers out there, but with thousands of altered cards residing in numbered PSA Slabs, the buyer must do his due diligence either way. And fortunately, eBay's return policy provides more than adequate buyer protection from fraud and bad listings like the one above.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:20 AM
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The screwdown holders are scratched-up. My initial thought was no good, but I'm not good at judging from scans. Any thoughts on his OJ's? The craquelure does not look right to me. I don't have the stomach to bid on these even if they were in a tpg holder. Rob
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:39 AM
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The contrast on that Ward seems way off.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:46 AM
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Here is a Connie Mack he sold the other day next to one that I have. The one I have is numbered in the upper right hand corner.
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Adding that I'm not an A&G expert so I wanted to back up my comment with an image rather than just conjecture. Here's the image posted earlier next to an SGC graded example from Ebay (not mine):

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Here is a Connie Mack he sold the other day next to one that I have. The one I have is numbered in the upper right hand corner.
The Mack looks good, but has anyone seen it without the numbering on top?

For full disclosure, I was the buyer.
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Old 06-05-2020, 10:35 PM
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The Ward side-to-side comparison makes it obvious that it’s a reprint. Look at the shading below the arm and especially below the bill of the cap. It’s very subtle but the copier used assumed too much and darkened it in considerably.

I didn’t notice anything obviously wrong about the N172s except the selection seemed a bit too nice, not enough commons.

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