Is there a more undervalued card in vintage?

seanofjapan · #1 06-12-2020, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

I don’t think he was boring, nor was he probably considered “boring” during his time. That being said I can’t really remember ever hearing a romanticized story regarding Eddie Collins ever being told. It seems he just hasn’t carried with him the same aura of historical significance into our time as many of his contemporaries did so he could be viewed as “boring” by today’s collectors. Whatever the reason, I don’t think I have ever met someone that focuses on Collins... but I have met quite a few Lajoie, Foxx, Speaker, etc collectors. Collins is considered one of the top 25-30 players in the history of the game by many Experts.

For me at least part of the problem with Collins is that his overall life story is very uninspiring. He has some racist baggage, which wasn’t unusual among players of his day. But what sets him apart is that there is no “redemption” part of his story in that regard. Other guys like Ty Cobb or Tris Speaker mellowed out and became way more accepting later in life, especially after Jackie Robinson came around. Speaker was a former Klansman who later helped Larry Doby break the color barrier in the AL for example. So you can find something redeeming in their life story that makes them a bit more appealing despite their rough edges.

Collins doesn’t have anything like that in his story. Later in life he played a key role in blocking desegregation on the Red Sox way after most of his contemporaries came around. He was just plain on the wrong side of history. Its really hard to get enthusiastic about a guy like that. Its particularly the case since when you read his bio this is basically the last chapter, so his story ends on this negative note.

SAllen2556 · #2 06-13-2020, 09:26 AM

I nominate Harry Heilmann
Four batting titles. .342 lifetime avg. And a real gentleman. Also a great broadcaster for the Tigers. On every all-1920's decade team. Cheap cards.

1921e121Heilmann.jpg

Aquarian Sports Cards · #3 06-13-2020, 12:36 PM

That's a sweet E121, 4's in that are like 6's in other issues!

packs · #4 06-13-2020, 12:54 PM

Nap Lajoie. I've always thought the premiums on his T206 portrait and with bat cards came down to the images on them rather than the player. The with bat card is on par with the Cobb bat off, and is in my opinion among the two nicest cards in the set.

His Cracker Jack is a hell of a card too. But I sometimes wonder if it's the image or the player that brings the high price there too.

Yastrzemski Sports · #5 06-14-2020, 03:03 PM

Killebrew rookie. A fraction of the price of Banks or Kaline.

ajjohnsonsoxfan · #6 06-14-2020, 11:05 PM

Great thread! I think relatively speaking the Mays Bowman RC is undervalued and will skyrocket after he passes.

wdwfan · #7 06-15-2020, 07:22 PM

I like the fact F. Robinson is underpriced and undervalued because I'm going to have to pick one up eventually for my 1957 Topps set.

As far as Rice, I think it's just the fact it's from the junk wax era (mid 1980s-mid 1990s). I think that has more to do with it than anything. Heck, even Montana RCs have gone down from $175 BV to $100 BV.

Who would've thought HOFer RCs would drop, especially ones that drop nearly 50 percent.

slidekellyslide · #8 06-24-2020, 04:33 PM

Warren Spahn won 363 games and his rookie can be had for $300 in mid grade and ~$1000 in high grade.

icollectDCsports · #9 06-24-2020, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Warren Spahn won 363 games and his rookie can be had for $300 in mid grade and ~$1000 in high grade.

Definitely one of the most underappreciated players of that era.

G1911 · #10 06-25-2020, 04:51 PM

In addition to those mentioned and keeping to pre-war, I think Lefty Grove is generally undervalued. He's a top 3 pitcher all-time, I think. Hubbell is a little cheap too. I think pitchers tend to be more likely to be undervalued, and that Hubbell and Grove's stats are not eye-popping until you compare to the context in which those numbers happened has limited their appeal.

leaflover · #11 06-27-2020, 03:02 PM

By far Larry Doby is the most undervalued-underrated player in the hobby.
The American League's first negro gets no respect! PSA "pop report" for 1948-49 Leafs show a mere 139 examples graded compared to Robinson's 1,344.
Yet there is a hugh price differential in Robinson's favor.

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