I Think I've been scammed (Update to prior post)

[Tyruscobb]

Originally Posted by Seven

The card was shown as delieved on Friday at 2:09. I did not receive it so I immediately went to the post office to find out where it was. They said that they didn't know an exact location, and the worker responsible wasn't there. I went to the branch manager and spoke to him, left my information, never heard anything from him.

The new listing which was taken down quickly was posted today I believe. I'm just really bummed out over this entire situation. I'm defintely going to be a lot more careful going forward of who I conduct deals with.

So, the USPS mistakenly delivers the card on Friday, June 26, 2020, and the recent seller (who has now taken it down) posts it for sale on Sunday, June 28, 2020?

I highly doubt the current seller is a good faith, bonafide purchaser. Does anyone believe the person that mistakenly received your card immediately sold it to the current holder, who lives an hour and a half away (assuming the card was mistakenly delivered somewhere near you in Brooklyn, NY), who then took possession and listed it all within less than 48 hours after the card was mistakenly delivered? No way; no how. That timeline is too quick.

Again, I would reach out to the card’s current holder. He needs to answer some questions. I would also reach out to eBay again. You have all the screenshots. It needs to ask the card’s holder some serious questions.

You and a friend need to purchaser something from the card’s current holder. Purchase his cheap items. Then you will have his name and address when he ships the items. I recommend having a friend also purchase something cheap from him to ensure he uses the same name and address. Then, contact the local police department.

You only live a little over an hour away from him. I would not let this go. He needs to be prosecuted.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

So, the USPS mistakenly delivers the card on Friday, June 26, 2020, and the recent seller (who has now taken it down) posts it for sale on Sunday, June 28, 2020?

I highly doubt the current seller is a good faith, bonafide purchaser. Does anyone believe the person that mistakenly received your card immediately sold it to the current holder, who lives an hour and a half away (assuming the card was mistakenly delivered somewhere near you in Brooklyn, NY), who then took possession and listed it all within less than 48 hours after the card was mistakenly delivered? No way; no how. That timeline is too quick.

Again, I would reach out to the card’s current holder. He needs to answer some questions. I would also reach out to eBay again. You have all the screenshots. It needs to ask the card’s holder some serious questions.

You and a friend need to purchaser something from the card’s current holder. Purchase his cheap items. Then you will have his name and address when he ships the items. I recommend having a friend also purchase something cheap from him to ensure he uses the same name and address. Then, contact the local police department.

You only live a little over an hour away from him. I would not let this go. He needs to be prosecuted.

The not responding to my messages, for the original seller seems very disingenuous. I would expect if a buyer didn't get his item or there where odd circumstances with a situation, you would want to resolve it at as soon as possible. Even a courtesy response would be nice.

It will be interesting to see if the 2nd seller responds to my message. Probably not. Truly one of the oddest experiences I've ever had.

[Seven]

The seller finally reached out and responded to me with this message

"I am sorry you have not received the card. Can you please send me a picture of the new listing so we can provide to my attorney just in case we need it for evidence? I collected the other tracking documents.

Please read my reviews. I have 100% positive rating as both a buyer and seller and have thousands of transactions.

The tracking shows it was delivered on Friday, June 26 at 2:09 pm. Not sure what else I can do online. I will call the USPS & eBay tomorrow and then update you."

Don't really know where to go from here. Not even sure what to believe anymore.

[swarmee]

You don't need to deal with the original seller directly at all. Not sure why you're chasing that lead unless you know they intentionally mailed it to someone else.

If you want eBay to pay out on your claim (and then give up the card), then just file a Not Received claim, the seller will show tracking shows it's delivered, and you'll have to escalate to a manager (most likely) to show that the card is/was being offered for sale by another eBay member. If you don't want eBay to shoulder the cost (because they shouldn't), contact the post office and claim the insurance. If it was uninsured or underinsured, I guess go back to the eBay claim.

If you still want the card, you need to submit a police report for stolen goods, and provide them the new eBay seller information. Or try to work it out with the seller directly, but they should definitely be outed for selling stolen goods. And really, you should want the card. It looks great for the grade, and you got it for a great price (seller to you must have taken a loss based on the March 28th sale through Probstein).

[111gecko]

My gut feeling is the 2nd seller bought this not knowing it was stolen/mis-delivered. If he was part of this; he wouldn't have listed it the next day.

He is probably working with that person to get his money back right now.
I agree with the previous post..this has nothing to do with original seller since it was marked delivered.

The second seller has all the info needed to fix this entire mess and get you your card back...all he needs to do is push back on the guy he bought it from.

[teza11]

James,

What city/State is shown on the delivery confirmation? The obvious answer is Brooklyn, NY but a seller can make changes to the deliver-to address loaded in your eBay profile.

Jeff

[Seven]

Originally Posted by teza11

James,

What city/State is shown on the delivery confirmation? The obvious answer is Brooklyn, NY but a seller can make changes to the deliver-to address loaded in your eBay profile.

Jeff

It stated "delivered at/in mailbox" to Brooklyn NY. Which should technically be my mailbox but it wasn't. I'm hoping to get any answer tomorrow when I go to the postoffice again.

[ctownboy]

Why not file a claim with the Postal Inspectors and have them look into it?

David

[Seven]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Why not file a claim with the Postal Inspectors and have them look into it?

David

I think that's going to be one of the avenues I look into, depending on what happens tomorrow when I go to the post office. I will keep everyone over here in the loop.

Its also possible the 2nd seller doesn't even have the card in his possession yet. The card could have been shipped with a team bag even though the original listing doesn't show it in a bag (which would make sense, most of us would remove the card to provide a better pic). In fact it would make sense that a novice would take a picture of the card in a team bag rather than taking it out and getting a better pic of the card. My guess, card was misdelivered. Individual who received card in error contacted a friend who he knows has some experience with cards. This second seller lists the card with the photo he was sent and it will be shipped out by the person who received the card in error/or the second seller will ship once he takes possession.

I'd ask the first seller if he shipped the card in a team bag. A random person who received the card wouldn't have one to put it in

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

Its also possible the 2nd seller doesn't even have the card in his possession yet. The card could have been shipped with a team bag even though the original listing doesn't show it in a bag (which would make sense, most of us would remove the card to provide a better pic). In fact it would make sense that a novice would take a picture of the card in a team bag rather than taking it out and getting a better pic of the card. My guess, card was misdelivered. Individual who received card in error contacted a friend who he knows has some experience with cards. This second seller lists the card with the photo he was sent and it will be shipped out by the person who received the card in error/or the second seller will ship once he takes possession.

I'd ask the first seller if he shipped the card in a team bag. A random person who received the card wouldn't have one to put it in

Certainly a possibility. That didn't even cross my mind.

EDIT:

First seller confirmed it was put in a team bag. More and more I'm thinking the package was misdelivered, stolen and then relisted by the person that stole it. Will have more of an idea tomorrow.