What Do You Make of This Fake Mantle Sale???

[Tao_Moko]

It's deception on the sellers part with the back story. Regardless of how it's listed. My assumption is it's either a gullible/hopeful buyer or buyer wanting to flip it as original. The argument will be made that the "buyer should buy graded" which is very self serving. This card is clearly fake, the buyer has a responsibility to do some work and not rely on a piece of plastic. There are plenty of fakes in slabs too. This is really just someone willing to take a risk. Maybe it's the seller too trying to get some credibility in his stash of cards given him as a kid(yeah right). Next up Leaf Robinson or Goudey Ruth.

[RL]

some people have more money than brains

[robw1959]

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko

It's deception on the sellers part with the back story. Regardless of how it's listed. My assumption is it's either a gullible/hopeful buyer or buyer wanting to flip it as original. The argument will be made that the "buyer should buy graded" which is very self serving. This card is clearly fake, the buyer has a responsibility to do some work and not rely on a piece of plastic. There are plenty of fakes in slabs too. This is really just someone willing to take a risk. Maybe it's the seller too trying to get some credibility in his stash of cards given him as a kid(yeah right). Next up Leaf Robinson or Goudey Ruth.

I guess it's possible. Anything is possible on eBay these days. But the idea of buying this worthless card that he knows is worthless, and potentially flipping it for a profit is more like the stuff dreams are made of.

[swarmee]

Well, cheaper than a 1990 Fleer Jose Uribe or a Topps common missing some black ink... ;-)

Possibilities:
1) Money laundering
2) Accidentally typed "fake" in feedback as some kind of Freudian slip.
3) Sent a message to seller with an offer of $10, the seller sent back a specific offer of $10, but the sale still looks like the original BIN list price of $3,050.

[robw1959]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Well, cheaper than a 1990 Fleer Jose Uribe or a Topps common missing some black ink... ;-)

Possibilities:
1) Money laundering
2) Accidentally typed "fake" in feedback as some kind of Freudian slip.
3) Sent a message to seller with an offer of $10, the seller sent back a specific offer of $10, but the sale still looks like the original BIN list price of $3,050.

I think we can safely rule out the last theory since it wasn't a BIN, but a straight auction with 8 bids, the last one being for $3050.

[swarmee]

No problem. I couldn't divine that from the information you listed, and couldn't look up the sale since it's over 6 months old. I took a guess.

[1880nonsports]

My best guess is that the buyer got his money back and left the only kind of feedback eBay would allow.....

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

My best guess is that the buyer got his money back and left the only kind of feedback eBay would allow.....

Very reasonable. Buyers can leave Neutrals though right?