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Groves stats as well as others in that era and before are suspect because we have no idea how records were kept, how lenient scoring was and most of all the hitting Just wasn’t that great. I hope that my opinion satisfies your craving as to my meaning of suspect.
Holy Crazy Train! No idea how records were kept?? It wasn't the dark ages. So you discount Walter, Cy, Hornsby, Ott, Cobb and Wagner? And that non-great hitting includes those bums Ruth and Gehrig, but they probably sucked because the scorekeepers were so lenient.

This from they guy who says Koufax must be the best of all time because he's the youngest HOFer, cause all the other guys ruined their careers by playing longer

In all seriousness, you might want to avoid discussions on baseball history.
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Holy Crazy Train! No idea how records were kept?? It wasn't the dark ages. So you discount Walter, Cy, Hornsby, Ott, Cobb and Wagner? And that non-great hitting includes those bums Ruth and Gehrig, but they probably sucked because the scorekeepers were so lenient.

This from they guy who says Koufax must be the best of all time because he's the youngest HOFer, cause all the other guys ruined their careers by playing longer

In all seriousness, you might want to avoid discussions on baseball history.
This from a guy who is an Early Wynn fan. What happened to you?
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The logic just gets better and better. All the options before Koufax have "suspect" stats from bad record-keeping (a completely made up fiction, please identify a single such gap in the records) and the work of "jock sniffers". The options after Koufax have to be dismissed because other players cheated.


I don't think you have any idea what "all time" means.... If our premise is that only Sandy Koufax even qualifies to be discussed, well I guess he is the best. This is mindless drivel.
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