Could be the first 1955 Mascot Dog Food Cards of Mantle and Berra. Any Info?

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by JUrsaner

Agree with that!

I do not. This would mean they are assuming Beckett got it right. Why should PSA rely on the inferior experts at Beckett? Makes no sense to me. I have no issue with a company deciding it does or does not wish to grade an issue. There are issues I feel are very questionable in some companies holders. I do believe the find chuck made a couple years ago was genuine but PSA should be able to make the determination on what they grade and what criteria need to be met to grade an added issue or card to the catalogs.

[sflayank]

So has anyone heard from pbruderer yet
No response to email or pm
No response on this board
Anyone think he's real? Whats his name?
Wheres he located,?
Still interesting just happens to show up same time as wheatland with the same unknown cards

[etsmith]

I believe many would argue about "inferior experts" at Beckett compared to PSA. Especially in light of PSA's recent problems.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by etsmith

I believe many would argue about "inferior experts" at Beckett compared to PSA. Especially in light of PSA's recent problems.

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..PSA has been having problems with older cards for a long time...

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[glynparson]

Data entry is. Not done by the graders. I stand by my statement. Beckett grading is. Not reliable I trust it less than any company that I know is still
Operating. They all aren’t perfect but to me Beckett is the farthest from it.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I do not. This would mean they are assuming Beckett got it right. Why should PSA rely on the inferior experts at Beckett? Makes no sense to me. I have no issue with a company deciding it does or does not wish to grade an issue. There are issues I feel are very questionable in some companies holders. I do believe the find chuck made a couple years ago was genuine but PSA should be able to make the determination on what they grade and what criteria need to be met to grade an added issue or card to the catalogs.

As I understand it they generally don't make up their own minds, insisting that a card already be cataloged somewhere first.

To me that's not an expertise that anyone would be inferior to.

[Orioles1954]

A couple of years ago I got a call out of the blue from PSA regarding an issue that I discovered and got put in the Standard Guide. About a month LATER I got another call from PSA regarding another issue I got cataloged in the Standard Guide. When I asked to be put on the payroll they hung up and haven't heard from them since

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I actually put together the composite for 1932 Bulgaria Sport for PSA because I wanted it included in the registry.

[sflayank]

So has anyone heard from pbruderer
Never posted any response....never answered any emails or pm
Was he real or a plant by an auction house
Where are the cards?
Btw...offered him in email a ton of green And he didn't respond

[swarmee]

Ask Leon to call him if you wish, just PM him.

I just find it pretty amazing that he knew the name of the other two cards in the set before chuckw posted a confirmation. So I'm still in the believer camp. Although I do watch a lot of House and NCIS, so I understand the "there are no coincidences" theory.

[sflayank]

Why not respond to anyone?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I do not. This would mean they are assuming Beckett got it right. Why should PSA rely on the inferior experts at Beckett? Makes no sense to me. I have no issue with a company deciding it does or does not wish to grade an issue. There are issues I feel are very questionable in some companies holders. I do believe the find chuck made a couple years ago was genuine but PSA should be able to make the determination on what they grade and what criteria need to be met to grade an added issue or card to the catalogs.

Beckett and PSA seem to do their homework more than SGC nowadays, to me.
I completely disagree with almost everything you say on the subject. Not that that matters, just another opinion.

And this person claiming to have a set is going to be suspended for now. It is a girl and I am not sure that post is on the up and up. I tried to call her but it was a voicemail and I don't leave them.....Caveat Emptor.....

[sflayank]

So where are the pictures

[sflayank]

pictures of the set which were already taken were promised 2 weeks ago
where are they

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sflayank

pictures of the set which were already taken were promised 2 weeks ago
where are they

Maybe you can subpoena them?

[sflayank]

They must be mixed in with trumps taxes

[Leon]

Originally Posted by sflayank

They must be mixed in with trumps taxes

Done with politics. Infraction given.

and it might say something that with over 10000 members you are the first to ever accumulate 4 infractions and still be here. A new record. Be proud.

.

[chuckw]

Originally Posted by sflayank

pictures of the set which were already taken were promised 2 weeks ago
where are they

I don't think the original person who started this post has responded with their photos. I indicated that I'm finalizing a story on the Mascot cards and will post a link as soon as it is ready (involved in a lot of important environmental and hurricane response work right now but still hoping to get it finished by the end of next week). I'm trying to get information from another owner of a few Mascot cards over this weekend.

[sflayank]

still waiting for pictures

[Exhibitman]

On the subject of getting an issue catalogued then graded...I've had a good share of experience on both ends. The graders are just trying to find good information; I've never seen evidence otherwise. Sloppiness at most (I got a good laugh some years ago when one of them refused to grade a catalogued card because it wasn't in the book; turns out their book was several editions out of date). I've found PSA is more stubborn than the others w/r/t new issues. I suspect this is a function of size. They are a bit bureaucratic and simply do not make judgment calls. I experienced this a few years ago with an Exhibit card that PSA insisted was from a different year than the actual year of issue because of a missing ad back, even though the players on the front would have been anachronisms if they were right. We eventually sorted it out but they do not just readily accept a neutral (wasn't even my card) third party's opinion that isn't written down somewhere. The SGC guys used to call me with with questions about boxing and Exhibit issues. I always found their research people willing to listen rather than rely on a catalog (probably since I wrote the f'ing catalog). FWIW, when I have something really good to report on w/r/t a set I try to break it with Sports Collectors Daily first and then (if it relates to my subject matter) put it into the next editions of my books before I even think about taking it to a TPG.