T206 Black vs Brown Lenox

[tedzan]

Pat

What the hell don't you understand. ! ?

I explained all that, and how I talked with the Net54 member, who said it was a mistake when he posted Ames in the Super Set.

Your derangement syndrome against me (over these past 4 years) has blinded you to grasp what is clearly written. Go back and read what I posted, and let it sink in to your mind.

And, quit this $H**T.

Ted
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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Pat

What the hell don't you understand. ! ?

I explained all that, and how I talked with the Net54 member, who said it was a mistake when he posted Ames in the Super Set.

Your derangement syndrome against me (over these past 4 years) has blinded you to grasp what is clearly written. Go back and read what I posted, and let it sink in to your mind.

And, quit this $H**T.

Ted
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I don't know Ted what I see clearly written is you saying you have an
Ames American Beauty 460 in the 70 card set you completed.

[tedzan]

Apparently, you are having a lapse of recall. Several years ago in one of your "gotcha Ted" posts, we discussed that exact list from 2009. And, I explained to you that the Baker
and Elberfeld had partial paper loss on their backs which obscured whether they were 350 or 460 cards. Obviously, they were AB 350 cards. I assumed otherwise....my bad.
And, I told you that I did not have Ames,. It was a mistaken typo on that list.

I'd like to think that you have forgotten that conversation, and now you have gone to the trouble to play this "gotcha Ted" game.

On the other hand, if you do recall our conversation on this subject from several years ago, and you are trying to instigate it again....then, sir you have a serious problem.

[Rhotchkiss]

So much for discussions about Lenox.....

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Here is a comparison of the rare Black Lenox vs the super-duper rare Brown Lenox. Anyone else have a black and brown combo?

Anyone know the theory on why there are browns, why they were distributed in packs, whether all blacks should conceivably have at least one brown counterpart out there, why some players seem to have a decent amount of Browns (McQuillan - like 4-5) and others have one (or none)?

What do we know about the elusive Brown Lenox?

Ryan

I'm sorry about this....but, as Billy Joel sang "I Didn't Start This Fire".

I simply responded to your 1st post here with my theory on how brown LENOX cards could have been printed, and which T206 subjects can (or will be) found with brown LENOX backs.

And BAM ! "Mr. Negativism" had to resort to his usual B-S tactics. He's done this numerous times in the past on other Threads that I have posted on.


TED Z

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[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

So much for discussions about Lenox.....

+1

I do not do 06s but do follow many of the threads more out of fascination about how complex the set is and the passion 06 collectors have for the issue but I have to say that I have seen Ted go bonkers on people for taking his thread OT but here he seems to be ok with hijacking this one. That is sorta disappointing.

[Rhotchkiss]

Ted, thanks for the post, and Patrick thank you for the email. I have born (online) witness to several t206 dust-ups between you two. The upside to them is the passion - in a world so polarized by politics and social issues, I love that people argue about t206 print runs!! That said, the banter does tend to hijack the threads, and I had to point that out. All good.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

+1

I do not do 06s but do follow many of the threads more out of fascination about how complex the set is and the passion 06 collectors have for the issue but I have to say that I have seen Ted go bonkers on people for taking his thread OT but here he seems to be ok with hijacking this one. That is sorta disappointing.

What is very "DISAPPOINTING" is your blaming me for this situation ! I did not "HI-JACK" Ryan's thread ! !
The other guy did, starting with his erroneous comments in post #22. To which I corrected, and he went berserk.

Ryan (1st post) asked some questions regarding the the brown LENOX cards. I simply responded (in post #10) with my theory on how brown LENOX cards may have been printed,
and which T206 subjects can (or will be) found with brown LENOX backs. I presented this theory several years ago, and it has withstood the test of time.

Then (post #22) things started to go off the track when Pat criticized my comment about "T206 LENOX card and a T80 LENOX card in the same pack of LENOX Cigarettes".

His criticism was absolutely unwarranted since his evidence was based on T79 cards (not T80 cards). He ignored my correction, and proceeded to go off on a tangent bashing me.


Hey Chase (Lorewalker), do review the posts in this thread and it will become obvious to you (and anyone else) that I DID NOT start this situation. Your faulting me is unwarranted.


TED Z

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[tedzan]

OK, let's get this LENOX train back on it's mainline track. Listed here (in color) are the T206 subjects that are confirmed Brown LENOX cards.
They are interleaved with subjects that are possible Brown LENOX candidates.

Thanks to Ryan for starting this thread. And, thanks to Bryan (Post #18), we have added one new confirmed Brown LENOX....Crawford (bat).
If we continue this train rolling down the tracks, perhaps we will discover another new Brown LENOX card (or even more). There are 12 more
possible subjects.

Hey guys, take a good close look at your LENOX cards. You may be surprised to find a Brown LENOX hiding in your T206 collection


CONFIRMED (25 subjects)......... and, additional possible Candidates that eventually may be confirmed.

Berger

Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Chase (trophy)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)

Jennings (two hands)

Lajoie (bat)
Jordan (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Latham
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Marquard (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Merkle (throwing)

Mullin (bat)

Overall (yellow sky)

Pelty (vertical)

Pfeister (throwing)
Schlei (portrait)

Schlei (batting)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)

F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)

Wagner (bat on right shoulder)

Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)

Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

Wiltse (pitching)



TED Z

T206 Reference
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