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Old 08-14-2020, 10:34 AM
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To me, it's the fact that the population of 53 Topps is a good chunk higher than the 53 Bowman, yet the Topps is the more expensive card out of the two. Both Beautiful cards in my opinion.

I think the 51 Bowman, his true RC, is massively undervalued. It's population isn't that high, it's such a nice card, you would think the demand for it would be higher.
I agree.

The Bowman Mantle's get no collector love in relation to Topps.
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The 53 Bowman is a beautiful card and it should be worth more than the Topps issue. Of course, I'm biased as I have a 53 Bowman set with a nice PSA 4 Mantle. Going back years, Bowmans usually caught the attention of more advanced collectors whereas pretty much everyone had something Topps related. On eBay graded 53 Bowman Mantles frequently appear, but anything PSA 7 or higher not so much.
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Old 08-14-2020, 04:40 PM
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As a reslab is so cheap and the vast price difference exists between white back and gray back 1956s, I believe there is truly a major difference in the population between the two that is borne out in the Pop Report. We have had threads about it in the past, and it appeared the Mantle card was SP'd on white back sheets. Looks like Willie Mays may have been as well.
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Robert, I'm curious as to why you didn't include the 1954B and 1955B cards in your graph.
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Robert, I'm curious as to why you didn't include the 1954B and 1955B cards in your graph.
The 54 and 55 are the Bowman. There were no Topps Mantle those years due to a deal Mantle had with Bowman.
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The 54 and 55 are the Bowman. There were no Topps Mantle those years due to a deal Mantle had with Bowman.
Yes, James, I am very well aware of this, but Robert said nothing in his OP about excluding any years or even comparing the Topps to Bowman PSA pops.
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Yes, James, I am very well aware of this, but Robert said nothing in his OP about excluding any years or even comparing the Topps to Bowman PSA pops.

Apologies if that post came off a little brusque Val. That's a fair point that you bring up. I didn't think of that.
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Robert, I'm curious as to why you didn't include the 1954B and 1955B cards in your graph.
The 54B and 55B are included in the graph, not excluded. They are only marked as "1954" and "1955", rather than "1954B" or "1955B".

As an aside, and as the OP mentioned, the 1965 dip in population is an interesting thing to see in comparison to other years. It's also has great eye appeal for a 60's Mantle card.
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The 1965 is card number 350, so distributed midway through the season. Many of the other ones were numbered either 50 or 150, signifying first or second series for his base cards.
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Looking at your cool data, I decided to check out a couple of the Mantles you highlighted, 1965 and 1969 WL, and holy heck are those some blue chip cards!! I bought a PSA 6 1969 WL about two years ago and a 1965 PSA 6 last year (through an ebay 15% off coupon code), and if I were to sell those cards today at just an 'average' price (all other things being equal), I would walk away with a hefty profit. Yowza!!!
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The 54B and 55B are included in the graph, not excluded. They are only marked as "1954" and "1955", rather than "1954B" or "1955B".
I see what you mean - thanks for cluing me in - sorry I didn't catch this earlier - my bad!
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I see what you mean - thanks for cluing me in - sorry I didn't catch this earlier - my bad!
No worries, Val -- it took me a minute to figure it out myself after you pointed it out.

I was just surprised to see you in a Mickey Mantle thread.
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As a reslab is so cheap and the vast price difference exists between white back and gray back 1956s, I believe there is truly a major difference in the population between the two that is borne out in the Pop Report. We have had threads about it in the past, and it appeared the Mantle card was SP'd on white back sheets. Looks like Willie Mays may have been as well.
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=254338
The first series 1-100 the white backs and grey backs are printed in similar quantities with white being slightly more common. The second series cards are all very rare with a white back.
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