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[Tere1071]

For my 2012 Topps Heritage set I need the Francoeur color swap. I also need the Carlos Pena minor league stats variation; I've seen images of it, but never have I seen one for sale.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Tere1071

For my 2012 Topps Heritage set I need the Francoeur color swap. I also need the Carlos Pena minor league stats variation; I've seen images of it, but never have I seen one for sale.

Ever considered just buying every copy listed on sportlots and hope you get one randomly that the seller didn't realize was a variation?

[ALR-bishop]

Ben-- when I first started putting it together the 88 Cloths were tough, but then a bunch of uncut sheets showed up. I like them.

If you collect any of the Topps cloth sets you should check out the 1976 test set of 2, Apodaca and Dyer. They can end found in 4 different cloth like formats. Apparently a test of using such material for cloth issues. The 88 format is similar to one of the 76 formats

[bswhiten]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Ben-- when I first started putting it together the 88 Cloths were tough, but then a bunch of uncut sheets showed up. I like them.

If you collect any of the Topps cloth sets you should check out the 1976 test set of 2, Apodaca and Dyer. They can end found in 4 different cloth like formats. Apparently a test of using such material for cloth issues. The 88 format is similar to one of the 76 formats

Al,

Thanks for the info. Any idea where the uncut sheets came from? An employee stash? I would love to get one of those to frame. That's cool about the 76 issue too.

[Tere1071]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Ever considered just buying every copy listed on sportlots and hope you get one randomly that the seller didn't realize was a variation?

On occasion, I've thought about it but shipping would make that an impractical expense for me. It would be nice to find a copy that cheaply, but to save energy I wouldn't mind paying the variation price.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Tere1071

On occasion, I've thought about it but shipping would make that an impractical expense for me. It would be nice to find a copy that cheaply, but to save energy I wouldn't mind paying the variation price.

Now that they have a mailbox option, maybe the ones that sellers ship for free (or very cheap) to the Sportlots box would make it feasible for a grouping.

[ThomasL]

Probably a fairly easy one but it has escaped me and I even bought a box of 1994 Conlon Cards and opened the packs in hopes of pulling it and it STILL escapes me....

1994 Conlon Color Card #32 - Benny Bengough

I have the rare color promo cards of Babe Ruth (1991), Joe Jackson (1992) and Johnny Mize CCD28 (1994) if someone is open for a trade...



Also missing the 2004 Joe Jackson Sweet Spot Patch of the Philadelphia A's

[jacksoncoupage]

Oh boy, a few for me...

Misc.

1988 Topps Glossy All-Stars Offer Card “cards not included” on front
1989 Topps Tony Oliva 665 with blacked out copyright
1990 Topps Debut ‘89 X
1990-91 O-Pee-Chee Sergei Fedorov Counterfeit
1990-91 Score Eric Lindros Counterfeit
1997 Leaf Fractal Matrix Die-Cuts Karim Garcia
2012 Topps Updates Jim Thome Orioles SSP


Brad Fullmer PC:

1995 5-Sport Red
1995 5-Sport Signature Series
1998 Bowman Autographs Gold
1998 Leaf Rookies & Chase Major League Hard Drives Sample
1998 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity (both)
1998 Topps Stadium Club First Day Issue
1998 Topps Stars Luninaries Gold
1999 Metal Precious Metal Gems

Matt Luke PC:

1998 LAPD Dodgers (perforated and clean edge)
1998 UD3 Die-Cut Gary Sheffield 212 (Luke cameo)
1999 Pacific Aurora Premiere Date
1999 Fleer Starting 9

Max Muncy PC:

2018 Topps Updates Blue Printing Plate
2018 Topps Updates Red Printing Plate
2018 Topps Updates Yellow Printing Plate*

*I am the “owner” but it was stolen (with a large collection) during a garage break-in December 2019

[ALR-bishop]

I have one of the Cards Not Included Glossy offer cars

I have a Turn Back The Clock 665 Oliva with and without the copyright on the back, is there another version in which the copyright is blocked out ?

Also have one of the Debut X cards, with Xs on both sides. The Xs are black with yellow background on one side and white with some red borders on other

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Tere1071

For my 2012 Topps Heritage set I need the Francoeur color swap. I also need the Carlos Pena minor league stats variation; I've seen images of it, but never have I seen one for sale.

It's actually Major and Minor League Stats on the Carlos Pena card. While the card has been long been sold on COMC. someone sent in an incorrect Correction Request on this card yesterday so I looked at that card this AM. The ID person who put the card into the COMCdatabase was correct

380.1 on COMC -- Complete Major League Batting Record

380.2 on COMC -- Complete Major and Minor League Batting Record.

Just an FYI to help in your search

Rich

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

380.1 on COMC -- Complete Major League Batting Record
380.2 on COMC -- Complete Major and Minor League Batting Record.

Ah, I didn't realize it was just the stats box title that was different. Both have the same stats and the same variation number in small print so I thought one of the Sold Out cards was put in the wrong bucket by mistake.
FWIW, the Pena on COMC sold for like $95 while the Frenchy color swap sold for $65.

[Rich Klein]

John:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZu19zv7nM0

Well the 4:40 mark or so is what I thought of when I realized it was you (in this thread) who sent in that CR (Oh, was that you?)

Regards
Rich

[Statfreak101]

As an avid 1989 Fleer collector, it comes down to these two cards for me:

White scribble Ripken
Clear Marlboro Johnson

I know those both exist, and can buy at least the WS Ripken on eBay...but for me, it is the chase that matters and wanting to pull one of our a pack. Same with the Johnson.

[steve5838]

Originally Posted by Statfreak101

As an avid 1989 Fleer collector, it comes down to these two cards for me:

White scribble Ripken
Clear Marlboro Johnson

I know those both exist, and can buy at least the WS Ripken on eBay...but for me, it is the chase that matters and wanting to pull one of our a pack. Same with the Johnson.

I agree. Particularly with the Clearest version of 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson Marlboro. With only two cards known to exist of this version this is the under the radar wild card of the 80s. I'm convinced the card value could someday be six figures plus if people start thinking about it in the context of today's cards and recognize it as an extremely rare parallel rookie card of one of the best pitchers of all time. Of course I'm biased. Still addicted to the card though and continue to search it out (along with the blue tint version).

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by steve5838

I agree. Particularly with the Clearest version of 1989 Fleer Randy Johnson Marlboro. With only two cards known to exist of this version this is the under the radar wild card of the 80s. I'm convinced the card value could someday be six figures plus if people start thinking about it in the context of today's cards and recognize it as an extremely rare parallel rookie card of one of the best pitchers of all time. Of course I'm biased. Still addicted to the card though and continue to search it out (along with the blue tint version).

Sounds like you should start a Youtube channel, a cook group, and a 3,000 post thread on PSA's message board and in this alternate universe 2020, it should happen in a couple of months. Merry Christmas!

I don't know that I've seen one. But things you don't have going for you:
1) Most people don't realize the Johnson Marlboro "error" exists.
2) Cigarette smoking isn't as interesting as curse words.
3) If there are only 2 known, they can't really be shill bid up and traded heavily.
4) Doesn't have a long history of being looked for (like FF and NNOF Thomas).

[Tere1071]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Ah, I didn't realize it was just the stats box title that was different. Both have the same stats and the same variation number in small print so I thought one of the Sold Out cards was put in the wrong bucket by mistake.
FWIW, the Pena on COMC sold for like $95 while the Frenchy color swap sold for $65.

How recently did both sell? I've depended either looking on eBay or by posting them as wants for my collection. I'd gladly pay those prices for either card to finish the set.

[Tere1071]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

It's actually Major and Minor League Stats on the Carlos Pena card. While the card has been long been sold on COMC. someone sent in an incorrect Correction Request on this card yesterday so I looked at that card this AM. The ID person who put the card into the COMCdatabase was correct

380.1 on COMC -- Complete Major League Batting Record

380.2 on COMC -- Complete Major and Minor League Batting Record.

Just an FYI to help in your search

Rich

Thank you for the clarification.

Phil