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have been on the same Old Mill sheets as the other 150/350 subjects. http://www.t206resource.com/Print%20...Checklist.html |
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Agree with Chris. Have seen in person and have similar opinion
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I have seen this Elberfeld (portrait-Washington), and like the t206kid (Hi Jay), I compared it with my OLD MILL Elberfeld card....and I agree it is BLUE.
Hi Jason (jggames), your observation is correct. The Elberfeld (portrait-Washington) card was printed in the 350-only Series. The fronts of this series of T206 subjects were printed in a subsequent press run to the 150/350 series subjects. The other two Blue OLD MILL cards, Walsh and Powell, are 150/350 Series subjects. TED Z T206 Reference . Last edited by tedzan; 08-21-2020 at 07:38 PM. Reason: Corrected typo. |
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Hi Jay
Having worked (part-time) in a print shop back in my H.S. days, I would see a number of printing mistakes. Therefore I suspect that after a print run of PIEDMONT backs, the ink in the press was not changed to Black ink in order to print OLD MILL backs. It's as simple as that. Where there are 3 blue OLD MILL's, there will be more. I'm expecting number 4, sooner or later. Take care, good friend. ![]() ![]() TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Yes Elberfeld Wasington (portrait) along with Dahlen (Brooklyn) and George Brown Washington were only printed with 350 series backs and no 150 backs but that's only because of their team changes right around the time the 150/350 subjects switched over to the 350 backs being printed on them. Elbefeld was still with Washington in 1910 and 1911 and Dahlen was still with Brooklyn in 1910 and 1911 so if they were printed with the 350 only subjects there would be no reason for ALC not to print them with AB, Cycle, Broad Leaf, Carolina Brights, Drum, Polar Bear, or Tolstoi. They were printed with the same 350 backs as the rest of the 150/350 series because they were on the same sheets with 150/350 subjects. The t206's with the factory numbers on the bottom also reinforces this Ames.jpgOverall (1) - Copy.jpg There are 26 different confirmed t206's with these factory numbers and all of them are 150/350 subjects and one of those is Dahlen Brooklyn. Dahlen Fact #30.jpg This is the list of confirmed t206's with the factory 30 on the bottom Ames (portrait) Beaumont Clarke, Fred (portrait) Clarke JJ Cobb (bat on) Dahlen Brooklyn Dooin Durham Gilbert Griffith (portrait) Hemphill Johnson (portrait) Jones, Fielder (portrait) Keeler (with bat) Killian (pitching) Mathewson (portrait) McGraw (portrait no cap) Merkle (portrait) Overall (portrait) Seymour (batting) Shipke Spade Steinfeldt (portrait) Stovall Tannehill (L on front) Wagner (bat on left shoulder |
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I'm looking forward to the listing and sale of the "Third" Blue Old Mill. I compared the Powell blue ink with other T206 blue inks. Originally I thought it was the same as the Polar Bear blue. But after more comparing against other T206's, it's a 100% match to Piedmont blue. We all know Piedmont's come in a range of different shades of blue but I was able to see an exact match of color comparing Piedmont's that would have been printed during the same time frame as the Print Group One Old Mill's.
I'm not sure exactly how these color error's happened. It could have been a lazy worker that didn't clean up the Piedmont blue ink before adding the Old Mill black ink. So the first and maybe the second sheet came out in blue. One other possibility is the sheet was a printers scrap but in poor lighting, the ink can look black, so maybe it looked fine and went into the production pile waiting to be cut and inserted into packs. Even after all this time, I still haven't searched all my Print Group One Old Mill's for more Blue Ink backs. I have 45 chances of finding another one from my Print Group One collection. It's crazy that I remember 10 years ago having 5 graded T206's lined up in front of me on my desk and amazed how awesome they looked. It's been a crazy 10 years. ![]()
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Ron - Uncle Nacki T206 Master Monster Front/Back Set Collector - www.youtube.com/unclenacki T206 Basic "The Monster" Set 514/524 T206 Advanced "Master Monster" Front/Back Set ?? ![]() COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS Old Mill Southern Leagues - Black Ink 48/48 Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 Full Color "No Prints" 28/28 NEAR COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS Polar Bear 245/250 Sovereign 460 50/52 Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 649 Overprint 31/34 Piedmont 350 "Elite 11" 9/11 |
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would have discarded sheets where the back color is a little off like these they were just advertising pieces put in cigarette packs. I also think it would have been a lot more than 1 or 2 sheets even if it were a couple of hundred sheets it would probably be lucky to have 15 or 20 survive this long. |
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