Hey, pennant guys

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

There isn't a known AFL logo L.A. Chargers pennant. Not only have I never seen one, there's a Chargers super collector named Pete Lowry who hasn't either. He has pretty much every Chargers pennant known to exist. This provides a pretty good hint at when the AFL began to use a trade mark. Had to be 1962 (the Titans and Texans were gone in 1963) which I believe predates the NFL use of a trademark.

Another oddity (probably to only me) is that the Miami Dolphins don't have a single bar helmet pennant with the AFL logo but all other AFL teams do including the Bengals who became a team two years after the Dolphins.

Mark...How could you pass on a beautiful red Texans pennant!

Maybe 1961? Bills team website and sportslogos.net shows the above logo for only 1960-61. Of course the logo could have been retired without Trench caring to change.

Another thing I noticed ... the Chiefs AFL pennant has the chief in either white or gold (pennant color).

A red Texans pennant? Wow, never saw one.

I do know the white Packers 1961 picture pennant has the NFL trademark. It lists them as Champs though so maybe it was sold in ‘62.

[bocca001]

Greg- which Oilers pennant was it that you missed?

Here are my recent Oilers pickups (from Fballguy)

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Greg- which Oilers pennant was it that you missed?

Here are my recent Oilers pickups (from Fballguy)

Nice ones Marc ... this one here. Someone must have attended an early Bills-Oilers game and locked these away. I love the Oiler man graphic.

[ooo-ribay]

$40k for a pennant is way less ridiculous than $3.9m for a Trout rookie card (complete with his indecipherable signature).

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Maybe 1961? Bills team website and sportslogos.net shows the above logo for only 1960-61. Of course the logo could have been retired without Trench caring to change.

Another thing I noticed ... the Chiefs AFL pennant has the chief in either white or gold (pennant color).

A red Texans pennant? Wow, never saw one.

I do know the white Packers 1961 picture pennant has the NFL trademark. It lists them as Champs though so maybe it was sold in ‘62.

Yep you're right. I never noticed that primitive little logo on it. That must've been one of the first. The game was played on Dec 31, 1961, so safe to say the pennant came out in 1962. And now I notice the only other pennants to display an NFL trademark in the same time period are Trench photo pennants. But we know Trench wasn't the only company making NFL pennants at the time. Safe to assume trademarking started in the early 60s but wasn't enforced until the mid-late 60s.

[Fballguy]

Meant to include this photo...

[bocca001]

That is a nice copy of that Oliers AFL pennant, Greg. As you probably know, it is not super rare, but finding one in great condition isn't easy.

Here is my other recent Houston purchase. I already had the Black version. Glad to add this bold Orange version.

And Greg's post about the Oilers had me searching through the completed ebay listings (why do I do that?) and I noticed this rare "atomic" style (I've never see it before) Giants 1960s/1970s pennant that sold as a BIN before either Ooribay or I could get to it : (

[perezfan]

Very cool Giants pennant for the era. The only other team I've seen using those baseballs "orbiting" around the Cap is the Phillies. I know the Astros 1960s-70s Logo used something similar as well (but without a Cap).

Gotta be rare... hope you can find one!

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Very cool Giants pennant for the era. The only other team I've seen using those baseballs "orbiting" around the Cap is the Phillies. I know the Astros 1960s-70s Logo used something similar as well (but without a Cap).

Gotta be rare... hope you can find one!

I have an A’s version as well. And I recognize the background in the Giants pic as belonging to a fellow Net54er...our good friend Erik C. This one sold pretty quickly if I’m remembering correctly.

[erikc21]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I have an A’s version as well. And I recognize the background in the Giants pic as belonging to a fellow Net54er...our good friend Erik C. This one sold pretty quickly if I’m remembering correctly.

Great memory, Rob. Yeah, that's correct. It sold very quickly which made me wonder if I priced it too low! Egner purchased it (hope that's okay to mention). I go back and forth about auctions vs. buy-it-now. I rarely ask this group if interested - it's a good reminder to do so.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

That is a nice copy of that Oliers AFL pennant, Greg. As you probably know, it is not super rare, but finding one in great condition isn't easy.

Here is my other recent Houston purchase. I already had the Black version. Glad to add this bold Orange version.

And Greg's post about the Oilers had me searching through the completed ebay listings (why do I do that?) and I noticed this rare "atomic" style (I've never see it before) Giants 1960s/1970s pennant that sold as a BIN before either Ooribay or I could get to it : (

Looks like that pennant was snapped up within 20 minutes of being listed. I'm guessing JR may have grabbed it, he seems to actively search for good deals and grab them very quickly. You might try contacting him, he would probably flip it to you but the price might be kinda high.

[thetahat]

That pennant with the orbiting baseballs was made for a bunch of teams actually, I think they are early to mid 70s. All of the ones I’ve seen are stiff felt. Here’s an Expos and Braves without the baseballs but seemingly from same maker.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Looks like that pennant was snapped up within 20 minutes of being listed. I'm guessing JR may have grabbed it, he seems to actively search for good deals and grab them very quickly. You might try contacting him, he would probably flip it to you but the price might be kinda high.

Are you referring to the Giants or the Oilers?

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Are you referring to the Giants or the Oilers?

Sorry, meant the Giants. Haven’t checked on the Oilers pennant.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Are you referring to the Giants or the Oilers?

The Oilers sold in 11 minutes to JR.

Rick

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

That is a nice copy of that Oliers AFL pennant, Greg. As you probably know, it is not super rare, but finding one in great condition isn't easy.

Here is my other recent Houston purchase. I already had the Black version. Glad to add this bold Orange version.

And Greg's post about the Oilers had me searching through the completed ebay listings (why do I do that?) and I noticed this rare "atomic" style (I've never see it before) Giants 1960s/1970s pennant that sold as a BIN before either Ooribay or I could get to it : (

Interesting ... my guess was that the color was super duper rare. I see it much more often in light blue.

Cool pickup with the orange Colts. They have great pennants. We’re taking about trademarks .... this brings to mind that Houston was one of the first to trademark their own logo; same with Astros. Referring to the little circled C inside the design, in the Colts it is to the right of the right gun handle and Astros at very bottom. .