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Brett hit .390 in 1980, but everyone seems to forget it. No one will forget this though: https://youtu.be/i-TMV8Yz9wo
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How many games did Gwynn play in 1994? I said no one who played 120 games. I also said hitting .395 or above in the last week. Gwynn never got to .395 at all after his 31st game and only played 110 games.
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You made so many exceptions to exclude Gwynn to prove your point. He should be pointed out as having a legitimate shot in the strike shortened season. My argument is simply that these achievements of yesteryear are still achievable if that's what a player's style allows. Miggy won the Triple Crown, which many people thought would be extremely difficult. Not many HR leaders in today's game are also the BA leaders. But Cabrera did it. And Gwynn was hitting .394 in AUGUST! WOW! It deserves to be pointed out.
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You may want to look again. 1950...94.5% of the league was white. 1.7% black. 3% Latino. 2016..63.7% white. 6.7% black. 27.4% Latino. Where did the talent pool come from: 1950 United States population 150 million people to draw from 2016 7.6 Billion.....players are drawn from all over the world now. Again, if the baseball players are worse now, then why are they taller, running faster, throwing harder, and catching the ball better? Baseball could expand to three times the amount of teams right now and still be more talented overall than the lore of yesteryear. Japan itself can add an entire league of teams now as good as 1900-1950 MLB leagues. So could Cuba. The 1980's is a little different story. That competitive level is closer to today's level. Their talent pool draw is impressively high amount of players as well, but still not as much as now. You also mentioned that humans haven't evolved, but in 1870 the average height and weight of a MLB player was 68.9 inches and weighed 163 pounds. The average height now is 74 inches and 207 pounds. And these guys throw better, run faster, and catch it better...they are bigger and MORE athletic. Like I said before, it isn't really about evolving, although there clearly has been an increase in human size in a short period of time. It is about the vastly higher numbers of population to draw from that dwarfs the players of yesteryear...we are talking billions of more people to draw from. We could have three MLB leagues, two NBA, and two NFL RIGHT NOW and STILL have a higher overall level of MLB talent now compared to the pre war times. There a lot of people I know who picked their wives based on size so they could grow a bigger athlete...so you have the selective aspect too. The WORLD POPULATION in 1900 was 1.6 billion. Baseball only chose from white America. The WORLD POPULATION in 1950 was 2.5 billion. Baseball only chose from America, and white America 95% of the time. The WORLD POPULATION in 1980 was 4.43 billion. The WOLRD POPULATION in 2020 is now 7.8 billion. Baseball chooses from a world wide population from which athletes are bred and trained in their craft so they can make millions of dollars. Not that hard to see the difference.
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+1 some people understand something so well, it's energetic to watch them talk about it.
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I didn't pick my wife because she is 5'11.5". I picked her because she stood out among the crowd!
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It's impossible to compare hitters across such a wide span of time. Baseball in 1900 was completely different than 1950, and baseball in 1950 was completely different than in 2019. It's a great discussion to have but impossible to come to any kind of real agreement.
I don't think it's at all surprising that more people are moving to football and basketball, same type salaries or higher and much shorter schedules. Playing fewer games for the same money or more money seems like the smart thing to do I imagine. |
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Anybody know the most paid for an Ohtani card a few years ago, and what that same card is going for these days, now that he may be a bust? Or at least not the Babe Ruth "they" were saying he was going to be?
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