New Grading Company - CSG

#1 09-09-2020, 02:17 PM

Those flips are uglier than sin. Just my opinion -Dan Hicks

mrvster · #2 09-09-2020, 03:32 PM

I will own one someday.....

general grading,

specializing in vintage freaks

I already have cherry picked a team

bnorth · #3 09-09-2020, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvster

I will own one someday.....

general grading,

specializing in vintage freaks

I already have cherry picked a team

When you do I would like to get one of your early test slabs to add to my oddball slab collection.

Would also like to get one of the very early slabs from this new company when they start grading baseball cards. One of their test slabs would be amazing.

Fred · #4 09-10-2020, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

Those flips are uglier than sin. Just my opinion -Dan Hicks

After seeing that sample, I agree.

Apparently they're not into test marketing. If they get off the ground, all you can do is hope they don't quickly realize the packaging (flips) are not what consumers would like and then change them.

Not sure how a company that is into grading is going to crack the code and survive in this PSA dominated market. They could get a foot hold in pre-war but the $$/volume seems to be in newer cards.

I remember when GAI started out, they seemed good, then all the altered cards started getting slabbed.

Best of luck to a new TPG venture because the hobby needs something it can trust.

perezfan · #5 09-10-2020, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred

After seeing that sample, I agree.

Apparently they're not into test marketing. If they get off the ground, all you can do is hope they don't quickly realize the packaging (flips) are not what consumers would like and then change them.

Not sure how a company that is into grading is going to crack the code and survive in this PSA dominated market. They could get a foot hold in pre-war but the $$/volume seems to be in newer cards.

I remember when GAI started out, they seemed good, then all the altered cards started getting slabbed.

Best of luck to a new TPG venture because the hobby needs something it can trust.

Regarding the part in bold.... It will be difficult, but is much needed for the integrity of the hobby. All three of the current TPGs are corrupt in their own ways.

If the FBI ever decides to come down on PSA for the thousands of "mistakes" they've made, the window of opportunity could open up a bit more for this new venture. Hopefully that will be the case, although they will still need to tone down that garish flip.

T205 GB · #6 09-10-2020, 02:04 PM

This is awesome news! What an original concept.

brewing · #7 09-12-2020, 09:14 AM

I'm confident the service will be top notch.

I'm looking forward to what the actual case and flip will look like.

The jumbo slab and jumbo grade are big detractors.

Bigdaddy · #8 09-12-2020, 08:23 PM

Seems like the flip is a non-trivial part of the encapsulation. Given that, it might be a good idea if CSG (or any of the other TPGs) would host a design contest for flips. You announce a contest with a $$ prize for the winner and make the statement that all submissions become the property of the company. You could have a public vote or whittle down the submissions in-house. There are lots of very, very talented graphic artists out there and I'm sure that any number of them could do a better job than what I've seen from any of the TPGs.

Just a thought.

dmats33312 · #9 11-26-2020, 08:14 AM

I think storing an image of the graded card and the grader notes will be huge. The image helps ease any slab popping/swapping and the notes helps with transparency. I've collected CGC comics and always appreciated having grader notes as to why the comics received the grade it did vs cards just seeing a grade with at most for BGS seeing a four criteria break down on modern. Also, for the comics they charge for grader's notes where here it looks like they will be free and public which also will help with web-based sales with not getting stuck with some undisclosed/seen flaw.

whitehse · #10 11-29-2020, 08:44 PM

Delete....nevermind.

Picklepete · #11 02-17-2021, 12:57 PM

I have about 700 slabbed PSA - PSA/DNA & BGS - BAS CARDS.
I was set up at early Dec. show / Tampa, & they had table at entrance to get peeps info. on them.
At least 50% of people told them they didn't like slab & label design..
Oh..oh..its being changed !

No.. it hasn't.
THAT tells me plenty.

JackR · #12 02-17-2021, 01:30 PM

CSG, SGC... only a typo away!

Pre War Starter · #13 02-17-2021, 03:06 PM

I love how the two “EXPERTS” they hired to manage the vintage and modern, in the promo video, Broome wasn’t wearing gloves, getting oil and grease on the borders, and Weston was handling a “chrome” card and had his thumb planted right on the face, leaving his thumb print on it.

I know Leon gave his approval to Broome, but IMO, an “expert grader” doesn’t touch a vintage cards without gloves.

Frank A · #14 02-17-2021, 03:31 PM

We are just a tiny percent of the people who have cards graded. It will take many years before a grading company can compete with the established group. I wish them good luck in the long haul.

robw1959 · #15 02-18-2021, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pre War Starter

I love how the two �EXPERTS� they hired to manage the vintage and modern, in the promo video, Broome wasn�t wearing gloves, getting oil and grease on the borders, and Weston was handling a �chrome� card and had his thumb planted right on the face, leaving his thumb print on it.

I know Leon gave his approval to Broome, but IMO, an �expert grader� doesn�t touch a vintage cards without gloves.

I don't think this is true, as I have seen in print from either PSA or SGC a grading note that tells us as customers that graders need to feel the surface of the card stock to determine key grading factors such as authenticity.

LACardsGuy · #16 02-17-2021, 03:45 PM

Any way to never wait for 4 months after paying through the nose with PSA will be welcome.

Vintagedeputy · #17 02-20-2021, 10:39 PM

That logo looks vaguely familiar...

Picklepete · #18 02-21-2021, 12:11 PM

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Picklepete · #19 02-21-2021, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

That logo looks vaguely familiar...

I kind of think SGC could sue them for being to close to their likeness of the logo.

I'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night 😁

Aquarian Sports Cards · #20 02-21-2021, 12:44 PM

Since CCG uses the scales on all of their logos I think it would've already happened. I've heard rumblings that SGC used to be part of Certified Collectibles Group, just like CGC, NGC, ASG etc... and that's why the similarity, but I can't find any facts to back that up. CGC was also started in Parsippany NJ which lends some credence to the theory.

aconte · #21 02-27-2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

That logo looks vaguely familiar...

I was thinking the same thing when I first saw the pictures and name earlier
this month. It's like SGC #2. The logo is close to me and the name Guaranty
too. Reminded me of SGC when Derek and Sean were there.

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