Why on earth is Mookie’s RC so cheap compared to Trout’s?

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by bxb

Reminds me of Mantle vs Mays controversy from the 1960s.

Don't overlook the obvious difference:

Mantle is to Mays

as

Trout is to Betts

No controversy, it's just there.
.

[Mike D.]

With Mantle and Mays, the WAR tilt is actually significant in Mays direction.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Mike D.

With Mantle and Mays, the WAR tilt is actually significant in Mays direction.

Career OPS+

1st Ruth 202
5th Trout 176
7th Mantle 172
19th Mays 156
113th Betts 135

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Career OPS+

1st Ruth 202
5th Trout 176
7th Mantle 172
19th Mays 156
113th Betts 135

OPS+ only measures offense, though, WAR measures offense, defense, and baserunning.

Of course, WAR is also a counting stat, so the fact that Mays had 12,497 plate appearances in his career vs. 9,910 for Mantle is taken into consideration.

[samosa4u]

Mickey Mantle went to the World Series twelve times! When he retired from the game, he had seven rings! He was a true champion! There is a reason why his cards are expensive! As for Trout, I don't know man! This guy has zero World Series appearances, and made the playoffs just once! And despite this, statheads are just punching away at their calculators going "Let me divide his ABs with his WAR and let's multiply this by 52.385 and then subtract this total from his ... oh my godness! Oh my godness! This guy is the best! Wow! Wow! Wow! " It's quite laughable!

[Mike D.]

And you heard it here folks...a teams success is the measure of an individual players worth and the major driver in their card values!

[conor912]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Mickey Mantle went to the World Series twelve times! When he retired from the game, he had seven rings! He was a true champion! There is a reason why his cards are expensive! As for Trout, I don't know man! This guy has zero World Series appearances, and made the playoffs just once! And despite this, statheads are just punching away at their calculators going "Let me divide his ABs with his WAR and let's multiply this by 52.385 and then subtract this total from his ... oh my godness! Oh my godness! This guy is the best! Wow! Wow! Wow! " It's quite laughable!

Ted Williams had no rings. Is he laughable?

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by conor912

Ted Williams had no rings. Is he laughable?

Not at all. People aren't spending gazillions of dollars on his cards and nor do they compare him to Babe Ruth (like they do Trout).