Fake 1915 Cracker Jack in PSA holder...wow!

Exhibitman · #1 10-27-2020, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins

My question is, does PSA now make good on their grading guarantee and buy back that card from him at a genuine PSA 1.5 1915 CJ Connie Mack price?

They sure as hell should have to...

Well, they did once buy back a fake Babe Ruth RC that they graded. But times have changed and they don't need to care any longer.

perezfan · #2 10-27-2020, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Well, they did once buy back a fake Babe Ruth RC that they graded. But times have changed and they don't need to care any longer.

Very sad but true.... They don't give two shits about the collector. It's only about profits, favoritism and stock price escalation. Truth be damned.

jchcollins · #3 10-27-2020, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

Very sad but true.... They don't give two shits about the collector. It's only about profits, favoritism and stock price escalation. Truth be damned.

I can't recall his name, maybe someone here does - but one of the guys on the FB groups is a fairly new VP at PSA/CU. He did post yesterday for the owner of that card to please contact him. I would hope they would make it right, but would agree this day in age - would not be surprised if they don't.

perezfan · #4 10-27-2020, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins

I can't recall his name, maybe someone here does - but one of the guys on the FB groups is a fairly new VP at PSA/CU. He did post yesterday for the owner of that card to please contact him. I would hope they would make it right, but would agree this day in age - would not be surprised if they don't.

If PSA recalls the card, it serves to benefit themselves, first and foremost. They are not doing it because it's the right thing for the collector. They are doing it to squelch and hide their ineptitude by getting it off the market.

They are quick to hide and conceal their blunders on obvious fakes, but have no problem whatsoever keeping their more subtle bleached, recolored and trimmed cards in circulation... no matter how conclusive the before/after evidence of tampering and alteration.

DWS44 · #5 10-27-2020, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins

I can't recall his name, maybe someone here does - but one of the guys on the FB groups is a fairly new VP at PSA/CU. He did post yesterday for the owner of that card to please contact him. I would hope they would make it right, but would agree this day in age - would not be surprised if they don't.

Yes, the person you mention from PSA, or at least sounds like the same person, contacted me yesterday afternoon via ebay after someone tipped them off on FB to the listing. After passing a few brief emails, he is supposed to call me this afternoon to discuss. Not sure what to expect.

Have I mentioned it's been an interesting 24 hours?!?

jchcollins · #6 10-27-2020, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DWS44

Yes, the person you mention from PSA, or at least sounds like the same person, contacted me yesterday afternoon via ebay after someone tipped them off on FB to the listing. After passing a few brief emails, he is supposed to call me this afternoon to discuss. Not sure what to expect.

Have I mentioned it's been an interesting 24 hours?!?

I know others have said, but thank you again for posting here and the disclosure. I'm sure it's been interesting to say the least!

Rhotchkiss · #7 10-27-2020, 12:20 PM

Dave, you have done nothing wrong- you submitted a card to an �expert�, paid their fee, and they totally f-ed up and graded a reprint (not even a good one); and hell, you disclosed right on the submission form that you suspected it to be a reprint.

I have messaged you about this and you know where I stand, but my offer to buy the card and concomitant paperwork for 100% of whatever you have in it remains open.

ullmandds · #8 10-27-2020, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Dave, you have done nothing wrong- you submitted a card to an �expert�, paid their fee, and they totally f-ed up and graded a reprint (not even a good one); and hell, you disclosed right on the submission form that you suspected it to be a reprint.

I have messaged you about this and you know where I stand, but my offer to buy the card and concomitant paperwork for 100% of whatever you have in it remains open.

+1...Nice, Ryan!!!!!!

Cliff Bowman · #9 10-27-2020, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

concomitant

That is the coolest word I have seen here since PS left.

bnorth · #10 10-27-2020, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Dave, you have done nothing wrong- you submitted a card to an �expert�, paid their fee, and they totally f-ed up and graded a reprint (not even a good one); and hell, you disclosed right on the submission form that you suspected it to be a reprint.

I have messaged you about this and you know where I stand, but my offer to buy the card and concomitant paperwork for 100% of whatever you have in it remains open.

+1 that would be a cool card to own. I have owned 3 counterfeit PSA graded cards in the past.

Tyruscobb · #11 10-27-2020, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DWS44

Yes, the person you mention from PSA, or at least sounds like the same person, contacted me yesterday afternoon via ebay after someone tipped them off on FB to the listing. After passing a few brief emails, he is supposed to call me this afternoon to discuss. Not sure what to expect.

Have I mentioned it's been an interesting 24 hours?!?

Inquiring minds want to know. What the heck did Mr. PSA say when he called you? What was the deal�s terms, or is it premised on confidentiality?

perezfan · #12 10-27-2020, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

Inquiring minds want to know. What the heck did Mr. PSA say when he called you? What was the deal’s terms, or is it premised on confidentiality?

I'd love to know as well... ASAP. Because once you make a deal with the devil, they'll swear you to secrecy.

Ryan's generous offer is probably the better one anyway.

bnorth · #13 10-27-2020, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

I'd love to know as well... ASAP. Because once you make a deal with the devil, they'll swear you to secrecy.

Ryan's generous offer is probably the better one anyway.

Pretty sure Ryan's break even offer is not even close to the best he has received.

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