Hey, pennant guys

[thetahat]

Closure ... so eBay notified me that I was entitled to a refund and told me to return. About as clear-cut of a fake memorabilia case as you’d find. Special thanks to KB for helping. The seller then sent me this, apparently his feelings were hurt. Awww..... don’t try to pull a fast one on your buyers in the first place and you won’t be called out for it. He never did acknowledge the voided sale to Rob just minutes before my purchase. I don’t believe for a second he didn’t exactly know what he was doing.

As a side note, in 20+ years of buying this is the first such experience with a shady seller. I’ve been lucky.

[perezfan]

If you don't want your feelings to be hurt, do not rip people off. He should seriously apply for a position with PSA.

Glad you got your refund quickly. His preaching to you about the legitimacy of a vintage pennant was akin to Mr. Magoo telling Mario Andretti how to drive.

[thetahat]

Our buddy just sold a Packers pennant ... at least he’s pleading ignorance in his description ... but look at the spine on this one. Yikes! (Otherwise looks original but who knows.)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Green-Bay-P...p&LH_Auction=1

EDIT: This is also full-blown fake. Look around the edges of the letters and graphic. Looks like they have been cut out and pasted. So he knows but covers his tracks by saying “it could be homemade”. Posted it cheap, someone bought it right away probably without reading carefully. No doubt he’ll fight the buyer if he is unhappy.

(Oh and he offered this to me after I bought the fake Texans pennant ... for $175.)

[Fballguy]

I was going to say much better job on the Packers, but looking closely it looks like the letters are held on with clear tape? The football player and lettering are much better than the Texans effort.

EDIT: I see what he did...The graphic and lettering were printed on green material that matches the color of the "felt" (?) used for the pennant. That way the rough cut isn't nearly as noticeable.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I was going to say much better job on the Packers, but looking closely it looks like the letters are held on with clear tape? The football player and lettering are much better than the Texans effort.

EDIT: I see what he did...The graphic and lettering were printed on green material that matches the color of the "felt" (?) used for the pennant. That way the rough cut isn't nearly as noticeable.

Still, lots of time and effort spent for a measly $35 bucks.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Still, lots of time and effort spent for a measly $35 bucks.

“So it’s possible that this was homemade ...”

[bocca001]

I picked up this 1965 Giants NL Champs phantom pennant from Fballguy recently. I have seen many damaged copies of this pennant (especially to the bottom corner) and am excited to have this nice copy.

I'm curious to see other phantom pennants from your collections and to hear any interesting details about the pennant or team.

I've always liked this Giants pennant because it is one of the few (only?) Giants items related to Warren Spahn's brief time with the team. 1965 is also the year that Juan Marichal went after John Roseboro with a bat after Roseboro intentionally threw the ball inches away from Marichal's face. My dad always told me that this incident (and Marichal being suspended) cost the Giants the pennant, but I think the Dodgers won something like 14 of their lat 15 games, which probably had more to do with it.

The pennant is also fun because of the misspelling of Willie McCovey's (McCOVERY) name and it includes a good number of HOFers (Mays, Cepeda, Perry, Marichal, Spahn, McCovey). It also includes Masanori Murakami, recognized as the first player from Japan to play in the MLB.

[murphusa]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Still, lots of time and effort spent for a measly $35 bucks.

Maybe, just maybe a father made one for his son back in the day when the could find one to buy