Mind. Blown.

111gecko · #1 11-19-2020, 12:59 PM

WOW. Looks like there is a long crease on the back below the 177 that runs through ROOK then below STARS to the side..
A 1.5 though?...I'm in trouble with my cards then..
Rough grade, and the worst part is you probably had to wait 3 months.

jchcollins · #2 11-19-2020, 02:15 PM

Ouch. My condolences.

"Please Submit Again."

quitcrab · #3 11-19-2020, 03:15 PM

You want to sell it LMK. Thanks Scott

rsdill2 · #4 11-19-2020, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 111gecko

WOW. Looks like there is a long crease on the back below the 177 that runs through ROOK then below STARS to the side..
A 1.5 though?...I'm in trouble with my cards then..
Rough grade, and the worst part is you probably had to wait 3 months.

I see what you're seeing in the scan. On close inspection in person, I don't see a crease. Don't see a crease anywhere. Only thing I see is the little spot on the 'A' on the front in ROOKIE STARS (it's not paper loss), the little mark on the back in the middle above 'w' in southpaw, and the weak lower left corner. I bought it raw thinking it was midgrade and I still think its midgrade. Real head scratcher here.

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Originally Posted by quitcrab

You want to sell it LMK. Thanks Scott

Not actively trying to sell, but for the right price I would. Feel free to make an offer via PM

JollyElm · #5 11-19-2020, 04:21 PM

If it is not a blatant, egregious error/mislabeling on PSA's part, then there must be some creases or such present somewhere (at a minimum). Can you tilt it in the light from every angle and take pics to see if anything becomes apparent?? If there's nothing there, then YOWZA!!!

ASF123 · #6 11-19-2020, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm

If it is not a blatant, egregious error/mislabeling on PSA's part

It has to be - I mean, Milton Bradley wasn't even born in 1968.

rsdill2 · #7 11-20-2020, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm

If it is not a blatant, egregious error/mislabeling on PSA's part, then there must be some creases or such present somewhere (at a minimum). Can you tilt it in the light from every angle and take pics to see if anything becomes apparent?? If there's nothing there, then YOWZA!!!

Hard to tell because it's entombed. But maybe it has a wave in it. Which is very interesting because it definitely did not have a wave on it when I subbed it. See pics, maybe a bend in the middle and another one at the end. Very interesting. Definitely no creases or wrinkles that I can find.

NiceDocter · #8 11-20-2020, 08:06 AM

Maybe they considered it off center because of the white showing on the edge beside Koosman?? Although 2 of my 3 I pulled from packs back in 1968 have the same issue.... they are ungraded. Mine are not the Milton Bradley cards but the regular Topps issue.

hcv123 · #9 11-20-2020, 08:09 AM

PSA giveth and PSA taketh away and many run like sheep (myself sadly included) to have them do it again because as incompetent and inconsistent as they are - they are a business reality!

I would agree for a card like that to get a 1.5 there would/should have to be a crease there - I would argue that even with a hard to see crease a 1.5 is harsh.

Do an interesting experiment - bust the card out - reinspect - take great pre resubmission scans and resubmit - then report back here. Be curious to see how different it comes back.

Gorditadogg · #10 11-21-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rsdill2

Hard to tell because it's entombed. But maybe it has a wave in it. Which is very interesting because it definitely did not have a wave on it when I subbed it. See pics, maybe a bend in the middle and another one at the end. Very interesting. Definitely no creases or wrinkles that I can find.

Yes, by looking at the back I can see what may be a wave across the middle of the card.

Maybe it got damp in transit?

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