T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

[Rhotchkiss]

Wow Sonny!! You have some serious Mattys. That is a great blank back

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Wow Sonny!! You have some serious Mattys. That is a great blank back

I agree with that!! Of all the Matty poses in the T206 set, the Dark Cap is my least favorite. But it's just something kinda magical when it has a Blank Back attached to it. It puts my 3 (Polar Bear, Sovereign 460, and Tolstoi) to shame.

[atx840]

I do not think there is a Dougherty, my theory it was swapped out with Ames....just a theory though

Here are the 34 I think make for the y/bs, I have scans of 33, missing Chase black cap.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by atx840

I do not think there is a Dougherty, my theory it was swapped out with Ames....just a theory though

Here are the 34 I think make for the y/bs, I have scans of 33, missing Chase black cap.

Hi ole buddy,

I cannot agree with you regarding Dougherty, simply because all 35 of these guys were printed with a trio of correlated backs....BROAD LEAF 460, red HINDU, and SWEET CAPORAL 350-460 Factory #42.
Just because he is missing in the collection of yellow-brown cards, does not mean he was not printed with this group of 35. You also have a missing Chase (dark cap), and we know he was printed.


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TED Z
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[atx840]

Hey Ted, good to see you posting.

I have never seen an Ames Red Hindu or BL460, would love to see scans.

My theory is that the group I listed was printed with Ames and then at one point printed with Dougherty in its place. Some backs were printed with both cards and some backs after the swap and do not include the Ames.

just a theory

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by atx840

Hey Ted, good to see you posting.

I have never seen an Ames Red Hindu or BL460, would love to see scans.

My theory is that the group I listed was printed with Ames and then at one point printed with Dougherty in its place. Some backs were printed with both cards and some backs after the swap and do not include the Ames.

just a theory

Chris

I understand your theory; however, why would ALC replace Dougherty with Ames ?

Dougherty played for the White Sox 1906 - 1911. Ames pitched for the Giants from 1903 to 1913. I do NOT see any logical reason for American
Lithographic (ALC) replacing Dougherty with Ames in their 1910 press runs.

Ames is not the only subject that has yet to be found with red HINDU or BL 460 backs. Checkout this pattern....35 subjects in the 350/460 series
that were printed with SWEET CAP Factory #42 were also printed with BL 460 and red HINDU backs. No other 350/460 series subjects conform to
this pattern. Ames has been confirmed with the SWEET CAP Factory #42 back; therefore, he was also printed with BL 460 and red HINDU backs.
I'll predict that Ames will be eventually found with the BL 460 and red HINDU backs.
Before you care to take my bet on this happening, I'll remind you.....I'm batting 1.000 with such type of T206 predictions.


TED Z

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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Chris

I understand your theory; however, why would ALC replace Dougherty with Ames ?

Dougherty played for the White Sox 1906 - 1911. Ames pitched for the Giants from 1903 to 1913. I do NOT see any logical reason for American
Lithographic (ALC) replacing Dougherty with Ames in their 1910 press runs.

Ames is not the only subject that has yet to be found with red HINDU or BL 460 backs. Checkout this pattern....35 subjects in the 350/460 series
that were printed with SWEET CAP Factory #42 were also printed with BL 460 and red HINDU backs. No other 350/460 series subjects conform to
this pattern. Ames has been confirmed with the SWEET CAP Factory #42 back; therefore, he was also printed with BL 460 and red HINDU backs.
I'll predict that Ames will be eventually found with the BL 460 and red HINDU backs.
Before you care to take my bet on this happening, I'll remind you.....I'm batting 1.000 with such type of T206 predictions.

Chris

While we are trading theories, "dig this one"......my theory is that these 35 subjects were on a sheet of multiples of a 36-card arrangement with the RED Cobb DOUBLE-PRINTED.

Proof of this theory can be found in Pop Report data which indicates that the RED Cobb has approximately twice as many SWEET CAPORAL 350-460, Factory #42 counts than any
of the other 34 subjects.


TED Z

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