Excited for CCG (CSG)?

[ronniehatesjazz]

Originally Posted by rdwyer

I like.

No-go on vintage for me, but that Jordan looks pretty solid. Nice slab for modern cards!

[PhillyFan1883]

Their holders are hideous. I like the competition though- to keep things more honest is the hope..

[oldeboo]

I like that they show the subgrades unlike PSA or SGC. I think with pre-war it's hard to beat the look of the SGC black frames. At the end of the day, I'm more worried about the card and in the case of grading, accuracy. It's human nature to not like change, but I'll keep an open mind until we start seeing the results from the actual grading. If they address some of the main issues in the current landscape I wouldn't mind if the labels were pink, honestly.

They are also, relatively recently, offering a wide variety of labels and holders in the coin industry. I'm not saying they transfer similar options to the card world, but it's a possibility to be aware of. I could see them eventually offering a T206 label, Goudey label, etc. Check these out if you're curious, you can click on the different labels to see all of the options:
https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-grading/labels/
https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-grading/holders/

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Showing the Centering, Corner, Edges, and Surface grades is something PSA, SGC should be doing--

[familytoad]

I was looking forward to an option since PSA is what it is, and SGC fell asleep at the wheel a few years ago.
But I’d rather wait 6 months for SGC than use that hideous slab.

For disclosure, I have about 35 PSA cards and about 500 SGC cards.
I stopped submitting to SGC when they went to their latest huge font flip and destroyed their registry.

Even though I view TPG as a necessary part of this hobby now, someone has to view this necessity from a collector’s standpoint too.
These guys are facilitating the flipping market only.

News flash, collectors who want to keep the card want a good presentation, a safe slab to hold their gems, good consistent service, and maybe a way to document the collection.

Maybe there isn’t enough money in that...so here we are with year long backlogs and people only wanting perfect cards. Too sterile for this old time collector.

I wish the new company the best. But more of the same isn’t what I want.

[68Hawk]

The above Jordan grades provide some interesting information off the bat, if you squint hard enough...

To my eyes, and yes just via this teeny tiny image, top border and right border appear larger than lower and left borders. Maybe as much as 55/45 each.

9.5 grade on centering, so I'm guessing one can expect tolerances for centering at least as big as the ones on display...

Interesting, because that's one of the few measureables I've always thought easiest to calibrate and universally agree upon.
Obvous centering issues big enough to hurt eye appeal getting a gem mint grade has always really bothered me, and I'd prefer the ultimate grades being held back for cards that were exactly that in every examination. No matter the vagaries of the issue and common cutting problems, that's the glory of an item labeled gem mint. A perfect looking card, both to the eye and upon closer examination.

Flip is rubbish too for mine, waaaaaaaaay to big and obvious the company didn't care too much for responses on this site to an early rendition of the holder to drive their thinking.

[rjackson44]

Will be using them ,,hope there is no backlog .good luck to them.

[PhillyFan1883]

News flash, collectors who want to keep the card want a good presentation, a safe slab to hold their gems, good consistent service, and maybe a way to document the collectio

Maybe there isn’t enough money in that...so here we are with year long backlogs and people only wanting perfect cards. Too sterile for this old time collector.

I wish the new company the best. But more of the same isn’t what I want.[/QUOTE]

I agree.. Good points. Something about black holders for the Pre war cards that is classic. The new company will change over the years but I am not rushing to send them anything until they show me value..

[Oscar_Stanage]

the slabs are horrific. I cannot believe this is what they ended up with - aesthetics are the easiest part of the equation. But it's still better than PSA slabs where the area around the card wrinkles up.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by ronniehatesjazz

No-go on vintage for me, but that Jordan looks pretty solid. Nice slab for modern cards!

Pretty solid for a trimmed card, like 90% of all Jordan Rookies

[brewing]

Soooo, has anyone sent them cards for grading?