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[campyfan39]

This IMO is why it matters. No one was being hurt or persecuted etc. because of the name. The posts (including mine) prove that this is a political issue and not really about right and wrong.
On Net54 we have a community that is unified around the hobby and sport we love and because this name change we are now sniping at each other, divided and name calling. I just don't see what changing the name accomplishes but I do see the division it causes

Originally Posted by wondo

Touche'

[t206fix]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

No one was being hurt or persecuted etc. because of the name. The posts (including mine) prove that this is a political issue and not really about right and wrong.

Wait, what?

[campyfan39]

TEDZAN

I deleted a long response because I saw your post! Thank you!
Awesome Campy variation even I don't have

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

This IMO is why it matters. No one was being hurt or persecuted etc. because of the name. The posts (including mine) prove that this is a political issue and not really about right and wrong.
On Net54 we have a community that is unified around the hobby and sport we love and because this name change we are now sniping at each other, divided and name calling. I just don't see what changing the name accomplishes but I do see the division it causes

Hey Campyfan39

166+ posts, and finally some one summarizes what REALLY matters here.

THANK YOU, Chris...... and, let's get back to "Talkin' BaseBall" cards.


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[rats60]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

This IMO is why it matters. No one was being hurt or persecuted etc. because of the name. The posts (including mine) prove that this is a political issue and not really about right and wrong.
On Net54 we have a community that is unified around the hobby and sport we love and because this name change we are now sniping at each other, divided and name calling. I just don't see what changing the name accomplishes but I do see the division it causes

No, the owner of the Cleveland baseball team discussed cultural issues with Native American groups and decided to change his team's name. That has caused a group of people to be triggered over something that is none of their concern. There is nothing political about it. Like 99% of issues on the internet, 99% of people are closed minded and will not listen to others opinions. Also, this community isn't unified around the hobby, the same thing happens in hobby related threads.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rats60

No, the owner of the Cleveland baseball team discussed cultural issues with Native American groups and decided to change his team's name. That has caused a group of people to be triggered over something that is none of their concern. There is nothing political about it. Like 99% of issues on the internet, 99% of people are closed minded and will not listen to others opinions. Also, this community isn't unified around the hobby, the same thing happens in hobby related threads.

IF you want to keep arguing put your name out here. I hate arguing with anonymous internet people. thanks

[Throttlesteer]

Originally Posted by Leon

IF you want to keep arguing put your name out here. I hate arguing with anonymous internet people. thanks

There is some irony to this, isn't there? Arguing about using someone's name without using your name.

[yanks87]

It's a mascot, I don't understand all the venom being slung around here. Chief Wahoo was offensive, and the team name marginalizes a group of people by turning their race into a caricature of a stereotype to push merchandise. In my mind, that is a wrong that is easy to fix. I'd like to think that we as a society move forward by always evolving and realizing that things that worked 10, 20, 100 years ago, doesn't necessarily work now. This is one of those cases. Go back to the Spiders, and I will be first in line to buy a hat.

Save the politics and passion for other things, a little empathy and accountability benefits all of us, even if it means we have to cheer a different name.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by yanks87

It's a mascot, I don't understand all the venom being slung around here. .

Because the discussion is a proxy for political ideology to a great extent. It’s like Uniwatch, CNN, and Parlor had a ménage à trois.

[yanks87]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Because the discussion is a proxy for political ideology to a great extent. It’s like Uniwatch, CNN, and Parlor had a ménage à trois.

Gold star to you, that comment wins the day! I got a good late night laugh on that one, thank you for keeping it light!

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

There is some irony to this, isn't there? Arguing about using someone's name without using your name.

I think Rats60 needs a name change to Chickens60, unless he cares to put up or shut up!

[t206fix]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I think Rats60 needs a name change to Chickens60, unless he cares to put up or shut up!

2 out of the first 4 posts on this thread didn't put their full name, plus many more. Why wait till post 217 to start calling people out.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by t206fix

2 out of the first 4 posts on this thread didn't put their full name, plus many more. Why wait till post 217 to start calling people out.

Is it hard, or unreasonable, for people to just put their names in their profile and leave it at that?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by t206fix

2 out of the first 4 posts on this thread didn't put their full name, plus many more. Why wait till post 217 to start calling people out.

None of those first 4 posts, without a name, would require one. That said 1 of those names was put out there because of the name rule and subsequent posts. Others to follow if needed. And Rats got warned to lay off but had posted before he saw the warning. I would rather everyone have their name out here but a lot of people don't want that. They just need to abide by the rules. The main rule which specifically concerns anonymity on the forum is in bold letters near the top of every page. It is a broad rule on purpose.


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