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Old 12-21-2020, 11:34 AM
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Zoomed to 250%.

If you look at where the one color of the hand goes below the border, you can see the left and right ones are brownish gray, while the middle is bluish gray.

So a different ink color.
I can't see enough detail to see if the layers were different.
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Old 12-21-2020, 03:29 PM
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Here are some 1200 dpi crops of a few areas Steve.
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Old 12-22-2020, 11:19 AM
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That's pretty clear.

On the blue one, especially on the first pair and the pair showing the hat you can see how the dark blue is all over instead of just highlights for shading.

One way that can happen is a dry plate, where there isn't enough wetting to repel ink from places you don't want printed.
But the big key with that is that it's usually in either small unprinted areas, like between frame lines on a Piedmont Reverse, or if a larger area it ranges from haphazard and sloppy looking to literally everywhere being printed, including borders. That's not happening here.

I believe the actual art was changed, a nice example of a running change in the 150's.
I think the blue one will be the older one, perhaps a change to use less blue to save ink, or if the uniforms weren't dark, to fix an error.
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Old 12-22-2020, 04:16 PM
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I noticed this exact same issue with a pair of Dineen's I had. Also a St. Louis player.
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Old 12-22-2020, 06:28 PM
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Reminds me a little of the Cleveland gray/brown uniform situation. Stovall (Portrait) and Turner have charcoal gray shirts in the 150 series (and on some Piedmont 350s), whereas they have brown shirts in the 350 series (except on some Piedmont 350s). Sorry for the poor scan quality (I no longer own these).
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Old 12-22-2020, 07:20 PM
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Yeah I've noticed the difference in uniform colors too scot. There are several
print group 1 subjects that vary in uniform color from the 150 series to the
350 series and even with in the 350 series but I haven't seen many like
the Shaw that vary that much with in the 150 series.

Here's an example of a variance in colors on a Birmingham 150 and 350.

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Old 12-22-2020, 09:10 PM
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Hi Pat, I would love to see a thorough and incontrovertible explanation for the differences in color with regard to Shaw (St. Louis), Stovall (Portrait), Turner, etc. I am certainly not qualified to provide one. Perhaps Steve is (hi Steve) but I have yet to see an explanation for these differences that is comprehensive or at least one that laypeople can understand. Merry Christmas everyone!

[If someone wants to write an article explaining these color disparities I will be more than happy to post it on my website! ]

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