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Old 12-27-2020, 08:04 PM
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Card is super narrow, so if it measures 2.5" wide, you know it's a counterfeit that was printed with the wrong resolution.
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Old 12-27-2020, 08:13 PM
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68 is definitely fake, but if the other 2 are I can't tell from the photos and are well done
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Old 12-27-2020, 08:19 PM
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Card is super narrow, so if it measures 2.5" wide, you know it's a counterfeit that was printed with the wrong resolution.
Which card do you mean? The '68 Mantle is indeed just a tiny bit narrow, but the other two are dead on with other cards from my collection. I don't see any distortions in the images on those that would result from "resizing."

The backs of the Mays and the '64 Mantle feel fine to me - no glossiness or unnatural smoothness as far as I can tell, but I don't have any experience in these things. The '68 Mantle maybe does feel a little oddly smooth by comparison, but that could very well be just the power of suggestion.
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Old 12-27-2020, 08:52 PM
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If the card measures short, then what I'm saying won't work. But if it measured as full, you would know it's counterfeit because there isn't enough border for a 2.5" wide card.
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If the card measures short, then what I'm saying won't work. But if it measured as full, you would know it's counterfeit because there isn't enough border for a 2.5" wide card.
Which card(s) are you referring to? The Mays and the 64 Mantle don't look like they have too little border space to me (in person, maybe the photos above look different). The Mantle is off center, of course, but not suspiciously so. Are you seeing something I'm missing?

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Which card(s) are you referring to? The Mays and the 64 Mantle don't look like they have too little border space to me (in person, maybe the photos above look different). The Mantle is off center, of course, but not suspiciously so. Are you seeing something I'm missing?
Don't overthink it. Simply measure the Mantle card and post it here. If it comes out as 2.5" wide, then it's a fraud (because a real card that is 2.5" wide would have more 'burlap' on the sides than the Mick does). If it's shorter than 2.5" (and possibly trimmed) then the jury is still out, because it can't be conclusively proven whether or not it's real from that fact alone.

Another way (probably?) would be to measure the Mantle card's active area (from the black line on the left across to the black line on the right). Then measure that same distance on other 1968 cards and see if they match (or come extremely close to matching). If they don't, it's bad.
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We all seem to agree that the 68 is fake, so I’m trying to find out if anyone thinks the border width on the other two is wrong? If it’s just the 68 you’re talking about, then yes, that may be another sign. But I’m more concerned about the other two at this point.
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I think you should be able to tell the other ones with a loupe/magnifier in the solid sections (purple on Mays, black bottom section on Mantle). Both look real to me from the scans.
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