Forged Counterfeit Sandy Koufax

thetruthisoutthere · #1 01-09-2021, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonT

This is the first I've heard of counterfeit versions of this card. What are the tells? I'll have to take a close look at the one I own...

If you don't know autographs, the "tell" on this card is the reverse.

Below is a photo of a the back of the card.

The "Sandy Koufax" should be close to the inside border of the card.

The counterfeit versions are all miss-cut and have chipping issues.

ShowPieceKoufax-3.jpg

jad22 · #2 01-09-2021, 08:39 AM

Thanks for posting this. I wonder how hard somebody studies a card like this before they buy it.

thetruthisoutthere · #3 01-09-2021, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jad22

Thanks for posting this. I wonder how hard somebody studies a card like this before they buy it.

The genius of these cards, is that the COA is embedded on the card (Topps, Upper Deck, etc).

I know seasoned collectors who have been fooled by these forged/counterfeit versions because the autograph isn't given a second look; it's assumed it's authentic.

PSA has screwed up on a few of these these.

Below is a photo showing where PSA graded a counterfeit Koufax.

Note that they didn't authenticate the autograph; they only graded the card.

But that in itself fools buyers; buyers assume because the card is slabbed by PSA, that they also certed it.

KoufaxCounterfeitPSA-1.jpg

jad22 · #4 01-09-2021, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

The genius of these cards, is that the COA is embedded on the card (Topps, Upper Deck, etc).

I know seasoned collectors who have been fooled by these forged/counterfeit versions because the autograph isn't given a second look; it's assumed it's authentic.

PSA has screwed up on a few of these these.

Below is a photo showing where PSA graded a counterfeit Koufax.

Note that they didn't authenticate the autograph; they only graded the card.

But that in itself fools buyers; buyers assume because the card is slabbed by PSA, that they also certed it.

Attachment 434607

I have wondered sometimes looking at some of the 2003-04 UD Legendary Signature cards.

thetruthisoutthere · #5 01-09-2021, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jad22

I have wondered sometimes looking at some of the 2003-04 UD Legendary Signature cards.

Yes, I forget what year it was, but I believe Upper Deck bypassed the 3rd-Party authenticator on some of those cuts and they got burned.

I was one of them; Upper Deck had to eventually send me another Connie Mack cut, and it took them six months.

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