Simple Auctions Hacked Again

Shoeless Moe · #1 01-19-2021, 08:02 AM

Day 3

and still nothing.

getting annoying.

bobbyw8469 · #2 01-19-2021, 09:12 AM

Seriously...this is ridiculous.

Mark17 · #3 01-19-2021, 09:19 AM

Hopefully, after the ransom was paid and the hackers helped the sites come back up, there was a thorough analysis of all the code to be sure the hackers didn't leave any back doors, or redirect links.

I had won an auction with VSA and there was no way I was going to pay through their website - I went down and paid in person. Had they been too far away, I would've mailed a check. Even opening an invoice in .pdf format would make me nervous.

I think it is false security to assume that payment info is safe because it isn't collected or stored by the various AH. IF the hackers left spyware on the servers - and I'm not saying they did, but since they had control of the servers for several days (including that weekend they supposedly weren't working,) unless and until a full forensic analysis is performed and results made public, we don't really know what's going on.

notfast · #4 01-19-2021, 10:44 AM

I just don�t understand why these auction houses, that are �breaking records� left and right, are putting up with this. I�m sure consigners don�t like their 6-7 figure cards being for sale on websites that go down so often.

RedsFan1941 · #5 01-19-2021, 11:05 AM

i knew a guy once whose roof was damaged by high winds and started leaking. he put a couple blue tarps on his roof over the trouble spots. he left those tarps up for years even though they didn't fix the problem. but they were cheaper than a new roof.

Mark17 · #6 01-19-2021, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

i knew a guy once whose roof was damaged by high winds and started leaking. he put a couple blue tarps on his roof over the trouble spots. he left those tarps up for years even though they didn't fix the problem. but they were cheaper than a new roof.

The problem with your analogy is that it's the guy's roof and if he made a poor decision, ultimately he's assuming all the risk.

In this case there's a problem at the top and it is trickling down to affect a bunch of AH, and those who do business with them. And nobody seems to be able to say conclusively what, exactly, that impact and potential risk is.

RedsFan1941 · #7 01-19-2021, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark17

The problem with your analogy is that it's the guy's roof and if he made a poor decision, ultimately he's assuming all the risk.

In this case there's a problem at the top and it is trickling down to affect a bunch of AH, and those who do business with them. And nobody seems to be able to say conclusively what, exactly, that impact and potential risk is.

the problem with my analogy is that it was too hard for you to follow.

Mark17 · #8 01-19-2021, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

the problem with my analogy is that it was too hard for you to follow.

Your analogy was to simpleton to be applicable here.

Peter_Spaeth · #9 01-19-2021, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notfast

I just don�t understand why these auction houses, that are �breaking records� left and right, are putting up with this. I�m sure consigners don�t like their 6-7 figure cards being for sale on websites that go down so often.

They seem to be very loyal to Bob, for whatever reason?

okumeister · #10 01-19-2021, 12:28 PM

Nevermind

Exhibitman · #11 01-19-2021, 12:52 PM

The servers will be back up on Saturday, er, Sunday. Monday morning absolutely, or possibly Tuesday...

perezfan · #12 01-19-2021, 12:57 PM

It�s a valid rant. As a consignor, I�d be pissed as well. Consignors should be kept in the loop and should be the first to receive info/updates. I don�t think the outage will negatively affect most prices in the end, provided they are back up and running today. Most of the serious bidding occurs at the end, and many of these auctions run a lot longer in duration than is really needed.

But you still want as many eyes as possible, and a few potential bidders could be missed because of the weekend outage. It�s aggravating as hell.

As far as switching servers, it is more complex than most people realize. A tremendous amount of work and expense is involved. From my understanding, SAS (despite the current issues) has a unique and turnkey platform on both the front and back ends. They have unique features which allow for ease of listing, invoicing and shipping that other companies simply do not offer.

That said, it�s still a clusterf*ck

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