Simple Auctions Hacked Again

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

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[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Speaking of conjecture...

I will simply ask once again if you have talked to Lee, Al, or anyone else on that site to get their perspective. The fact that you can't or won't answer is the answer.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

So I owe an apology to Kenny, Lee and Al. Apparently I am losing my mind. I know, and do chat with Lee and Al periodically and could've sworn when the first hack went down I chatted with both. Apparently I remember incorrectly. I want to be clear that they are great guys and my whole point behind my posts was that good companies and people don't deserve to have something like this happen to them.

I HAVE spoken with both of them now, but in the interest of fairness, and again with an apology to Kenny as well, I removed my posts even though they live on in Kenny's quotes.

[BRoberts]

Why in the world does someone have to talk to Al or Lee to determine whether switching auction providers is cost prohibitive? What might be cost prohibitive to Al might not be to Scott. Or Ken Goldin. or Kenny Cole.

Scott says he has done it, and it wasn't cost prohibitive. Just because Al and Lee say it is, that invalidates Scott's opinion? Having trouble following your logic, Kenny.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

Why in the world does someone have to talk to Al or Lee to determine whether switching auction providers is cost prohibitive? What might be cost prohibitive to Al might not be to Scott. Or Ken Goldin. or Kenny Cole.

Scott says he has done it, and it wasn't cost prohibitive. Just because Al and Lee say it is, that invalidates Scott's opinion? Having trouble following your logic, Kenny.

They aren't nearly on the same site, nor do their respective sites even remotely have the same features or functionality. That is a huge difference. And that is why what works for Scott may not come even close to working for Al, Lee, Goldin, or whoever. That is also why I don't think Scott can presume to speak about what works for Al or vice versa. Opinions are only as valid as the information upon which they are based. That is and has been my point.

[perezfan]

Yes, the situation is more complex than 90% of people here seem to comprehend. Probably best not to comment unless you have worn the other man's shoes.

As for SAS.... at least this latest outage was the result of taking proactive measures to combat the issue moving forward. Did it take longer than desired? Of course... it sucks. But it's a good bet that these annoying measures will protect against something far worse.

Other servers should probably be doing the exact same right about now, as ransomware attacks have now become the #1 form of international terrorism.

[Stampsfan]

Interesting comments, especially about migrating data from one software provider to another. However, some of the comments indicate that SAS is not used for the larger AH's. Is this truth or conjecture? Also, developing your own proprietary auction (and inventory) systems is not an inexpensive undertaking.

I am old enough to have worked for companies that developed their own accounting, payroll, and inventory systems, but that just is not the way things are done now. I would assume that AH's would pay to use a cloud based (SaaS) inventory application, coupled with auction type software.

Are there larger auction house type software that the biggies are using, other that SAS?

More curious than anything... Thanks.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Really whom I speak with isn't your business, but for some reason you have to know. Yes I reached out to both of them immediately after the first hack and traded messages with each of them. Happy?

You are right in the sense that I couldn't care less who you talk to. It does irritate me that you simply pull stuff out of your ass when you don't know come here from sic 'em about the subject upon which you are opining. And that is rather clearly the case here. In any event, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. It doesn't make much sense to continue on, because you will remain convinced that you are right and I will remain convinced that you are not. Such is life. Carry on ...