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smellthegum · #1 02-01-2021, 08:18 AM

My poorly centered BB Loes

ALR-bishop · #2 02-01-2021, 08:32 AM

In post 102 I provided a link to the checklist for what Huggins & Scott called the Topps 1952 Super Set of 579, which contains 29 cards more then the PSA Registry Master set of 550. Most of the additional cards they include are really just recurring print defects.

One involves the Loes card, which it says can be found in black back with a border irregularity in the lower left front border. I have not found one. If anyone here has one can they please post it. In looking for it I did come across this one, also a black back. This defect is scarce but does recur in different sizes

LincolnVT · #3 02-01-2021, 08:58 AM

Looks like the Black Backs posted above do have a border irregularity when compared to the red backs. Interesting.

jayshum · #4 02-01-2021, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

In post 102 I provided a link to the checklist for what Huggins & Scott called the Topps 1952 Super Set of 579, which contains 29 cards more then the PSA Registry Master set of 550. Most of the additional cards they include are really just recurring print defects.

One involves the Loes card, which it says can be found in black back with a border irregularity in the lower left front border. I have not found one. If anyone here has one can they please post it. In looking for it I did come across this one, also a black back. This defect is scarce but does recur in different sizes

It looks like the black border just under the left end of the box where his name is has a little bit missing compared to the same spot on the red back card. Is that the irregularity you are talking about or is it something else?

ALR-bishop · #5 02-01-2021, 10:58 AM

Jay, as usual I am not sure what I am talking about. The H&S checklist just says his BB can be found with a "frame break in lower left one third". I see what you are pointing out, but for there to be 3 versions of the Loes card as suggested by the H&S checklist the BB Loes has to also exist without that irregularity as well.

jayshum · #6 02-01-2021, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Jay, as usual I am not sure what I am talking about. The H&S checklist just says his BB can be found with a "frame break in lower left one third". I see what you are pointing out, but for there to be 3 versions of the Loes card as suggested by the H&S checklist the BB Loes has to also exist without that irregularity as well.

If so, then without is apparently the rarer version since all the cards posted so far are the same, as you indicated.

ALR-bishop · #7 02-01-2021, 11:55 AM

Agreed, if that is the "frame break in lower left one third" I was always looking in the lower part of the left border, but guess it could refer to bottom border, left 1/3 portion

. Thanks for input

Edit---there are BBs on ebay without the defect, so think you nailed it. Thanks

irv · #8 02-01-2021, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

A factoid about Loes. He is one of 5 players in the 52 set who does not appear in the 1983 Topps Reprint of the 52 set. The others are D Dimagio, S Rogovin, S Hemus and T Holmes. Presumably Topps was unable to get sufficient approval from the player or his family, or from it�s original contract to reuse the player�s likeness

Thanks for sharing, Al.
No, is likely the the answer, but were any players added to the reprint set that weren't in the original set?

Here is my Mr. Loes.

jayshum · #9 02-01-2021, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Agreed, if that is the "frame break in lower left one third" I was always looking in the lower part of the left border, but guess it could refer to bottom border, left 1/3 portion

. Thanks for input

Edit---there are BBs on ebay without the defect, so think you nailed it. Thanks

Here's a picture of a Loes black back from an eBay listing (Greg Morris) with the border complete so looks like that is what the variation is talking about. For me, it's not worth chasing variations like this, but I know some people like to.

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