John Frill backstory

Kevin · #1 02-04-2021, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tedzan

Kevin.....you have quite a challenge doing a Frill run.....

AB 460

CYCLE 460

EPDG

LENOX

OLD MILL

PIEDMONT 460 (Factory #25)

POLAR BEAR

SOVEREIGN 460

SWEET CAPORAL (Factory's #25, 30, 42 overprint)

TOLSTOI

UZIT

TED Z

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Thanks for the list , Ted. How does one attack this? Those are some crazy backs.

tedzan · #2 02-04-2021, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Thanks for the list , Ted. How does one attack this? Those are some crazy backs.

Kevin

With the exception of the CYCLE 460, LENOX and the UZIT cards, the other 10 backs are not too tough.

The tough Red HINDU and PIEDMONT 460 (Factory #42) backs were not printed.

Good Luck....go for it, it's a fun run.

TED Z

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Kevin · #3 02-04-2021, 09:30 AM

I will be emailing Tony now about Mr. Frill. Now here I sit with 170 (+5 in transit). Thanks for the encouragement.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #4 02-04-2021, 11:15 PM

Actually, there weren't too many MLB players who succumbed to the 1918 version of 2020. It's quite surprising that more didn't perish. I was just thinking about it this afternoon. There were a few active players who were lost back then, whereas we can hope that the total of active Major Leaugers lost in this pandemic will stand at zero.

Edited to add a (likely partial) list of players either lost to the Spanish Flu or who died from influenza within a short time of that pandemic:

Frank Arellanes
Ray Boyd
Harry Chapman
Larry Chappell
Gene Curtis
Walt Dickson
John Frill
Fred Gaiser
Harry Glenn
Jack Lapp
George Leclair
Matty McIntyre
Phil Routcliffe

There are a couple of players on here who died post-1918-1919, yet family records I've gathered still attribute their deaths to the 1918 pandemic.

dealme · #5 02-05-2021, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyCox3

Actually, there weren't too many MLB players who succumbed to the 1918 version of 2020. It's quite surprising that more didn't perish. I was just thinking about it this afternoon. There were a few active players who were lost back then, whereas we can hope that the total of active Major Leaugers lost in this pandemic will stand at zero.

Edited to add a (likely partial) list of players either lost to the Spanish Flu or who died from influenza within a short time of that pandemic:

Frank Arellanes
Ray Boyd
Harry Chapman
Larry Chappell
Gene Curtis
Walt Dickson
John Frill
Fred Gaiser
Harry Glenn
Jack Lapp
George Leclair
Matty McIntyre
Phil Routcliffe

There are a couple of players on here who died post-1918-1919, yet family records I've gathered still attribute their deaths to the 1918 pandemic.

I was reading through your list (too quickly obviously) and read the second and third entries as "Ray Chapman". I had to re-read it. I love the historical rabbit holes that turn up on this site.

Cheers,
Mark

Kevin · #6 02-05-2021, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dealme

I was reading through your list (too quickly obviously) and read the second and third entries as "Ray Chapman". I had to re-read it. I love the historical rabbit holes that turn up on this site.

Cheers,
Mark

Same thing!

Kevin · #7 02-06-2021, 07:07 AM

Cycle 460
Lennox
Uzit

I gather as one approaches the 520, these come in to focus? Here is the thing. I am almost 48 years old and am embarking on this journey that I had abandoned for 20 years. Then I’d go to the Hofstra show or the Long Island Marriott show once every two years between 2000-2018 , run into John Goodman (from the Hamptons) and he’d joke with me that I always forget my “list”. Is 520 realistic? Is 520 plus a Magie or the 3 hard Frill’s realistic?

I’m not sure. But I’m diving in. Thanks for the encouragement, folks!

You guys wonder about these players like I do. Is there a thread of family ancestors here on net54? Anyway, getting a bit nostalgic here; a tad romantic. I think the MOST exciting thing here is sharing this with my 6 and 4 year old. I show them the cards and they are sort of interested? Faking interest? But maybe there is a little spark there. Maybe they’ll continue the set if I can’t.

Damn, this is sort of exciting.

frankbmd · #8 10-07-2021, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyCox3

Actually, there weren't too many MLB players who succumbed to the 1918 version of 2020. It's quite surprising that more didn't perish. I was just thinking about it this afternoon. There were a few active players who were lost back then, whereas we can hope that the total of active Major Leaugers lost in this pandemic will stand at zero.

Edited to add a (likely partial) list of players either lost to the Spanish Flu or who died from influenza within a short time of that pandemic:

Frank Arellanes
Ray Boyd
Harry Chapman
Larry Chappell
Gene Curtis
Walt Dickson
John Frill
Fred Gaiser
Harry Glenn
Jack Lapp
George Leclair
Matty McIntyre
Phil Routcliffe

There are a couple of players on here who died post-1918-1919, yet family records I've gathered still attribute their deaths to the 1918 pandemic.

I actually have complete back runs of

Boyd
Chapman
Curtis
Dickson
Gaiser
Glenn
Lapp
Leclair
Routcliffe

Eric72 · #9 06-15-2021, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin

...How does one attack this? Those are some crazy backs.

Persistence
Patience
Time
Money

obiwan1129 · #10 06-16-2021, 09:32 AM

Don't forget to check out the SABR bio project when looking for info on some of these players. I did a look and the bio is assigned but not written yet.

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/john-frill/

There are some great bios already done, you can search here:

https://sabr.org/bioproject

Lastly, I'll link to one of my favorite old time players, Hack Wilson, https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/hack-wilson/

Kevin · #11 10-07-2021, 07:49 AM

I love this guy.

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