Hitler cards graded by PSA

[Peter_Spaeth]

incidentally, I was reading about a movement to no longer teach "the Classics" such as Homer in college because they are racist. Presented without comment.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

incidentally, I was reading about a movement to no longer teach "the Classics" such as Homer in college because they are racist. Presented without comment.

Apparently winning the Super Bowl during Black History Month is racist too. Who knew? Maybe we could move it back to January like it used to be so it won't be as racist?

Here's the problem with renaming schools (or other buildings), changing team names/logos, removing statues, etc. There are certain people that no matter what you do, they will never be satisfied. In their minds they will always be oppressed and always be the victims no matter what. So why even bother?

Here are just 4 of many tweets. And yes, they are real, before anyone says otherwise.

[Peter_Spaeth]

As the phrase goes, there is a lot of virtue signaling these days that masquerades as change.

[packs]

I don't think everything needs to be nice or whatever but some of this stuff seems okay. For example, why would there be a Fort Bragg?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Apparently winning the Super Bowl during Black History Month is racist too. Who knew? Maybe we could move it back to January like it used to be so it won't be as racist?

Here's the problem with renaming schools (or other buildings), changing team names/logos, removing statues, etc. There are certain people that no matter what you do, they will never be satisfied. In their minds they will always be oppressed and always be the victims no matter what. So why even bother?

Here are just 4 of many tweets. And yes, they are real, before anyone says otherwise.

I don't know. All of those responses seems pretty tongue in cheek to me.


Also, the sentiment, "So why even bother?".........seems like an excuse to always keep the status quo......simply because a bunch of twitter twits on twitter, say things that could be construed in some way as "that's not enough".

For the record.........sure, grade whatever card, is considered a "card". I'll judge the subject, but not the card itself. I've had plenty of Hitler cards in various German Olympic sets throughout the years. Never had any graded, and never felt comfortable trying to squeeze extra bucks out of marketing them individually, so usually just passed them on in group lots.................but I'm not a fan of erasing history either. Whether it be taking away NCAA titles, or HR's from steroid users. If you keep it front and center, history and individuals will judge how they feel appropriate.

I'll certainly judge somebody who tells me, "yeah, I'm a big fan of that Hitler guy.....I collect everything I can get my hands on from him". Probably be my last conversation with that person.

That's my strong stance of the day, LOL. Hitler bad! Way worse then Marcus Garvey.

[vintagewhitesox]

Ah, whether PSA should grade these cards. The eternal struggle.

[Writehooks]

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

-- George Orwell, 1984

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Writehooks

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

-- George Orwell, 1984

Not sure of your context in this thread, but Orwell gets misappropriated and misinterpreted on a daily basis (by both the right and the left).

If changing a name of a street from Stonewall Jackson Blvd., to Shirley Chisholm Parkway strikes somebody as "Orwellian", I think they are missing the point of his writings.

Activism that enacts change is the exact opposite of the Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism that exists in "1984". Orwell himself was a Democratic Socialist.

1984 was a treatise against Stalinist Communism.........not general Socialism or Social movements. He would have abhorred "McCarthyism" just as much as the Communism, that McCarthyism was pretending to root out.

[Shoeless Moe]

“Stupidity got us into this mess, and stupidity will get us out.” -Homer Simpson

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Writehooks

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

-- George Orwell, 1984

Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Here are just 4 of many tweets. And yes, they are real, before anyone says otherwise.

You realize those tweets are sarcasm, right?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

You realize those tweets are sarcasm, right?

No, sir. They're not. Re-read my post. Already covered this.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

No, sir. They're not. Re-read my post. Already covered this.

I re-read your post, you say they are real, but you don't say they are true feelings. Shown in the vacuum you presented, they sure appear to be sarcasm. How about adding some context?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

No, sir. They're not. Re-read my post. Already covered this.

C'mon man. You said the tweets were real. Nobody disputed that. We disputed your interpretation of said "tweets".

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

C'mon man. You said the tweets were real. Nobody disputed that. We disputed your interpretation of said "tweets".

Instead of making assumptions about the intent of the tweets, why don't you read some tweets from the same authors? That should tell you all you need to know.
Report back to us and let us know what you find.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Instead of making assumptions about the intent of the tweets, why don't you read some tweets from the same authors? That should tell you all you need to know.
Report back to us and let us know what you find.

Ok,
first one claims trolling.
Second one says "hey it was a joke"
Third one says trolling, and both happy and pissed he made an article
Fourth one "This account doesn't exist"

Also- You owe me at least 20 IQ points after making me read twitter, which I'm now glad I don't do anything with.
I'll accept a decent box of junk wax era stuff as compensation...