New Grading Company - CSG

Tyruscobb · #1 02-17-2021, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 3-2-count

A slab design should be low on the list of expectations from third party authentication if even mentioned at all.

Presentation matters. There is an entire industry that focuses on it. Take your favorite family photograph and place it into a cheap frame. Now, take the same photograph to a professional framer and I guarantee the new frame will magnify the photograph’s effect and presentation.

Just like your family photograph, you are more concerned with the card than its slab/frame. However, a nice slab/frame significantly adds to the overall presentation and effect.

I agree that there are more important factors, but presentation, especially for cards that I collect for my PC and plan on looking at until I die, is very important.

This post is not expressing an opinion concerning whether this new company’s slabs, or any other TPG’s slabs for that matter, are or are not aesthetically pleasing.

Casey2296 · #2 02-17-2021, 10:56 PM

Aesthetics are important to pre war collectors. I realize we're not the most important demo to grading companies but having an option for a black apron and a subtle label would have grabbed a lot of market share from that demo.

perezfan · #3 02-18-2021, 12:42 AM

+3 (to the three posts directly above). These posts all echo my sentiments exactly.

I am sooooo ready to give them a try, but am having trouble getting past that gigantic flip/slab. Especially with regard to my Tobacco and Caramel Cards.

It's the presentation of the actual card that matters.... not the number. Now that they are an advertiser here, I really hope someone from CSG is reading (and subsequently addressing) this!

Exhibitman · #4 02-18-2021, 07:44 AM

Aesthetic preferences are like buttholes: everyone has one. I actually like the holder and flip. And let's be honest here: far more collectors care about the flip than the card inside anyway. Perhaps not in this fine group but certainly among the general body of collectors. Once these cards reach the market and start selling all will be forgiven.

RayBShotz · #5 02-18-2021, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Aesthetic preferences are like buttholes: everyone has one. I actually like the holder and flip. And let's be honest here: far more collectors care about the flip than the card inside anyway. Perhaps not in this fine group but certainly among the general body of collectors. Once these cards reach the market and start selling all will be forgiven.

Adam - I think I like the holder and flip as well.
I'd really like to see them do everything right and honor all sportscard collectors.

Really anxious to see what type of results Leon gets with his vintage submission.
I think turn around time is a very big deal in today's TPG market. The delays have been intolerable for too long and collectors should root for a new player in this space.
I honestly hope it happens for CSG.
RayB

chadeast · #6 02-18-2021, 02:13 PM

I spent a bit of time playing around with Paint to create a few concepts, please excuse my very limited skills. This is meant only as something to stimulate conversation, and hopefully is taken as such. I am absolutely rooting for the success of CSG. If they are unhappy with my brainstorming using their images, I will remove them.

In my ideal world, the label would be black and white only, but my Paint skills only take me so far.

EDIT to add original below

perezfan · #7 02-18-2021, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadeast

I spent a bit of time playing around with Paint to create a few concepts, please excuse my very limited skills. This is meant only as something to stimulate conversation, and hopefully is taken as such. I am absolutely rooting for the success of CSG. If they are unhappy with my brainstorming using their images, I will remove them.

In my ideal world, the label would be black and white only, but my Paint skills only take me so far.

EDIT to add original below

The smaller flip definitely looks better!

Can you photoshop what a small T206 or Caramel card would look like encased in their current "mega slab"?

Leon · #8 02-18-2021, 08:00 AM

I can pretty much assure everyone that CSG reads this forum. Keep the comments coming. I am neutral on the flip as I buy cards. That said, I agree the SGC black inserts really make our cards pop. I will probably never use them again, as I don't like their management ways or recent capabilities, but they do have nice slabs.

mq711 · #9 02-18-2021, 08:58 AM

Can�t imagine they will get a hugh market share of vintage cards but should have enough interest from modern collectors, investors and flippers who have a who is hot now mentality. Since a lot of the modern cards are busy and loud they will display much better in those slabs than a T206 or Cracker Jack.

I�m still shocked they don�t include a measured centering option to the flip and add a Perfect 10 grade to their scale. Since most modern cards are mint, one with all around 50/50 centering would receive a gold flip and then let the chase begin.

Oscar_Stanage · #10 02-18-2021, 09:34 AM

I cannot get on board with that slab.
I will buy the card if the price is right, but will have to crack it and send elsewhere for presentation in my collection. I won't send cards in.
but if they get rave reviews from people on this site, I will re-consider.

jchcollins · #11 02-18-2021, 09:41 AM

I will have to get one of these slabs once they start showing up on eBay just out of pure curiosity. I don't love the look of the flip on first impression, but I don't hate it either.

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