Verdict on screw downs

[tlhss]

I have nothing but raw cards in my collection. Not investment quality. I use sleeves and toploaders. And I purchase many different widths of toploaders to get the best fit.

[campyfan39]

I have never had any trouble with non recessed screw downs. Have used them for 20 years and have changed hundreds and hundreds in and out without a single issue

My old collection was in non recessed screw downs for probably 25 years. I posted some of them here and people went crazy. I started changing them over to recessed screw downs but the old ones had no issues at all. Every card was completely fine. I probably had three dozen vintage cards in them. I think where you store them is as important if not more on how you store them. Mine were always in an airtight tub and in a dry dark place. Even all my raw cards were as perfect as the day I stored them. Moisture and light are bad for any collectibles especially paper ones.

[irv]

I had my 52 Topps Mantle and Mays in screw downs for many years but quickly removed them when many on here told about the possible hazards.
Luckily I never tightened the screws anymore than I had too and I am also glad I decided to store them on their side rather than flat to help keep the weight off the actual card.

In my opinion, with recessed screw downs now available, it makes no sense to me to not use them if one likes screw downs.

[perezfan]

A fallacy created by PSA and the TPG Gods, and widely accepted by their sheeple... they want to scare you into thinking they provide a vital service.

If you like the way they look in screw-downs, then use them. As long as you don't force the screws unreasonably tight, the card will be well protected.

I have sold/traded cards that were in screwdowns for over 20 years, and all came out fine. Many of the cards' new owners felt the need to submit to TPG, and all have received the exact numerical grades that you'd expect.

Do what you like and don't buy into the self-serving agenda.

[triwak]

Agree with the other posters here: I have used non-recessed screw-downs for years, and have never seen any damage upon removal. I store them on their sides, and don't overtighten.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by irv

I had my 52 Topps Mantle and Mays in screw downs for many years but quickly removed them when many on here told about the possible hazards.
Luckily I never tightened the screws anymore than I had too and I am also glad I decided to store them on their side rather than flat to help keep the weight off the actual card.

In my opinion, with recessed screw downs now available, it makes no sense to me to not use them if one likes screw downs.

I have found that the recessed screw-downs often allow the card to move around within the case, and do not hold firmly enough. Especially those that are molded for tobacco-sized cards. This movement in itself can cause more damage than any perceived issue with non-recessed cases.

And I cannot even find recessed cases for Goudey... so I go with non-recessed, and not a single example has subsequently failed to numerically grade.

[irv]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I have found that the recessed screw-downs often allow the card to move around within the case, and do not hold firmly enough. Especially those that are molded for tobacco-sized cards. This movement in itself can cause more damage than any perceived issue with non-recessed cases.

And I cannot even find recessed cases for Goudey... so I go with non-recessed, and not a single example has subsequently failed to numerically grade.

For sure using the proper size, if available, is paramount but according to many on this site, many have had issues over the years.
Not saying one way or another if they are good or bad as I never encountered any problems the way I used and stored mine, but by the sounds of it, many have.
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=152019

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by irv

For sure using the proper size, if available, is paramount but according to many on this site, many have had issues over the years.
Not saying one way or another if they are good or bad as I never encountered any problems the way I used and stored mine, but by the sounds of it, many have.
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=152019

Hmmm... maybe if exposed to extreme humidity, a glossy type card could stick to the top half? Curious to know what were the specific issues, if you can recall?

[topcat61]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I have found that the recessed screw-downs often allow the card to move around within the case, and do not hold firmly enough. Especially those that are molded for tobacco-sized cards. This movement in itself can cause more damage than any perceived issue with non-recessed cases.

And I cannot even find recessed cases for Goudey... so I go with non-recessed, and not a single example has subsequently failed to numerically grade.

If you use a sleeve first, and then the screwdown, you wont have any problems.

[SD]

I have had paper and print loss from cheap 70s plastic slabs sticking to the card. Sleeved first and I don't see an issue.