Rough cuts and grading standards

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by rcmckenzie

when i first sent cards off for grading 20 or more years ago, i thought i was sending cards to be examined by someone like dr cycleback in a lab at mit. I realized quickly that it was more likely a fry cook working a 2nd job as a card grader.

lol!

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

If a factory uses a wire to cut cards, it is not avoidable, it's just how they did it at the time.

O-Pee-Chee did not use a wire to cut their sheets.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

lol!



O-Pee-Chee did not use a wire to cut their sheets.

From everything I have read on O-pee-chee focused collector sites, they did wire cut. Perhaps this is a myth similar to the 'first print' blue line? Please educate us and as to how you know this to be the case

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

From everything I have read on O-pee-chee focused collector sites, they did wire cut. Perhaps this is a myth similar to the 'first print' blue line? Please educate us and as to how you know this to be the case

False information is like COVID-19; it spreads everywhere and spreads quickly!

I've spoken to a few guys who worked at the O-Pee-Chee plant in London back in the day, and again, there was no wire. They had different machines in there that were made around the 1950s. Some of the machines cut two strips of cards at a time and one machine cut one strip at a time. The machine that was cutting one strip at a time produced the cleanest cuts.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

False information is like COVID-19; it spreads everywhere and spreads quickly!

I've spoken to a few guys who worked at the O-Pee-Chee plant in London back in the day, and again, there was no wire. They had different machines in there that were made around the 1950s. Some of the machines cut two strips of cards at a time and one machine cut one strip at a time. The machine that was cutting one strip at a time produced the cleanest cuts.

lol, to be honest I never even knew what 'wire cut' meant. any insights on the 'first print' nonsense?

[Jim F]

OPC did not use wires and that Gretzky is a 5 because it has corner wear. That corner wear has nothing to do with the rough cut

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

lol, to be honest I never even knew what 'wire cut' meant. any insights on the 'first print' nonsense?

According to a former employee I spoke with, O-Pee-Chee was not doing first, second, third, etc. print runs back when the Gretzky rookie was manufactured. Additional runs were only required when there was a huge demand for more product, and this did not start happening until the late 1980s.

[Leon]

I hadn't read this thread until now and thought it was talking about pre-war cards.

So back to pre war. I guess cards that had coupons (although a D382 coupon hasn't been seen, I don't believe) could be considered rough cut? Or maybe rough tear, in most cases. This one might have been cut.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by Leon

I hadn't read this thread until now and thought it was talking about pre-war cards.

So back to pre war. I guess cards that had coupons (although a D382 coupon hasn't been seen, I don't believe) could be considered rough cut? Or maybe rough tear, in most cases. This one might have been cut.

not sure if this illustrates rough cut, but certainly how the writing blurbs have changed over the years. "A big fellow who throws...."