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Old 03-12-2021, 10:00 PM
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That's not what I'm talking about. I don't begrudge a seller the right to ship in a crappy top loader (although it's always a point in the seller's favor for return business if they can see fit to include a nice one). I'm talking about sellers, and there are shockingly many, who ship in a nice new top loader that they render useless by mummifying it in tape. Or even with a strip of Scotch tape all the way across the top - that stuff doesn't come off. There's plenty of tape that will actually peel off without ruining the top loader.

Bottom line: If you're going to spring for a new top loader in the first place, let the buyer enjoy the benefit of it too!
Or maybe the buyer can spend twenty five cents of their own if it's so important to them?
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Old 03-12-2021, 10:25 PM
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Or maybe the buyer can spend twenty five cents of their own if it's so important to them?
It’s completely unnecessary for both parties to have to buy new top loaders. How is that even controversial?

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Old 03-12-2021, 10:33 PM
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It’s completely unnecessary for both parties to have to buy new top loaders. How is that even controversial?
I agree the buyer should have toploaders to store their cards in. That is way better than using shipping materials to store their cards.
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Old 03-12-2021, 10:38 PM
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Ok, let me try this again:

If a seller wants to ship in crappy top loaders, fine. That’s the seller’s right - although as a buyer I give “that’s a nice gesture” bonus points for shipping in nice top loaders.

However: If a seller does choose to ship in nice top loaders, please don’t ruin them with tape. There’s no need for it, and then nobody benefits from the nice top loaders. So why do it?

That’s all I’m saying.

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Old 03-12-2021, 10:41 PM
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Sounds like you guys have identified why some sellers choose to ship in crappy toploaders. Get too fancy with it, and next thing you know you'll be having to buy team set bags to put them in too...
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Say you were throwing in a bonus card, as some sellers do. Would you go out of your way to crease it before you sent it?
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Old 03-13-2021, 09:49 AM
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Say you were throwing in a bonus card, as some sellers do. Would you go out of your way to crease it before you sent it?
Say you receive a bonus card. Would you complain if it wasn't mint?

I used to collect GU bats. Bat tubes, bought in bulk, cost about $4.00. When I would sell a bat and ship in a bat tube, I taped the end caps on to ensure the item (the bat) arrived without damage. Rather put tape residue on a $4 tube than risk damage to a $300 bat.

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Old 03-23-2021, 11:52 AM
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We all know that ebay guy who lists cards for 10 times what they are worth. I hate that guy but I hate it even more when that guy comes over to BST to do the same thing.

A little foreshadowing: I didn't know it at the time, but this guy has a fairly obscure SGC 5 card up on ebay for $165 OBO. A PSA 7 of that card just sold for $60 earlier this month, so you might figure his card is worth $20-25.

This guy also has a listing on BST right now for some low grade cards that are more or less fairly priced. So I bought one and he asked me what else I was interested in, because he was "selling off his collection". He sent me a scan of some cards, including his SGC 5 card and I asked what he wanted for it. (It was a front office exec for a team that my aunt's family once had ownership in. I thought I could show it to her and see if she remembered him.)

How about $190? he said. (Yes, more than what he is asking on ebay!)

I am so annoyed by that ebay/BST guy. Most of the members here are a pleasure to deal with, when a scammer comes around here it is a pain.
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Speaking of shipping, I hate:

--The guy who wrecks a perfectly good card saver or toploader with tape, especially the one who tapes the entire opening of a card saver with scotch tape. It is just such a waste. Use the blue tape, people.

--The guy who doesn't seal the top of a toploader at all. Blue tape, team bag, even a folded over post-it will work. I had to send back a nice card a week ago because the jackhole who sold it shipped it in an unsealed toploader and when it got to me it had slipped out of the holder and picked up a nicely dinged corner.

--The guy who puts a card saver or top loader into a padded envelope without a stiffener, and especially the one who sticks a packing peanut in there too. What kind of moron thinks that is going to make it to the customer without damage? Ever see a 1960 Leaf baseball pack? The damn marble just tears through the wax paper.

--The guy who mummifies the card holder in tape. I appreciate the sentiment but if I have to resort to a knife to open the holder you are not protecting the card, you are making it more likely that I will damage it trying to open it.
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Long time ago I used to sell items starting at 99c with a reserve but then put the reserve price in the description.

I never did quite understand the point of a reserve price, with the exception that you were selling an item to see if it would sell, or would only sell if it reached a certain price. AKA, not a run of the mill item or something that didn't really mean anything to you. Otherwise, you'd just start the auction at the lowest price you'd sell it for. But of course, especially with an auction website that you can sort things by, you can get more eyeballs onto an item by setting a low starting bid.
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Speaking of shipping, I hate:

--The guy who puts a card saver or top loader into a padded envelope without a stiffener, and especially the one who sticks a packing peanut in there too. What kind of moron thinks that is going to make it to the customer without damage? Ever see a 1960 Leaf baseball pack? The damn marble just tears through the wax paper.
People do this because if a envelope isn't at least 1/4" thick, its not eligible for tracking. A few packing peanuts solves that problem.
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People do this because if a envelope isn't at least 1/4" thick, its not eligible for tracking. A few packing peanuts solves that problem.

Yeah, I never understood that. 1/4" inch isn't that much. between a couple pieces of cardboard and the surrounding packaging and you have yourself an easy 1/4" inch. Anyways, I think if you go deep enough into the handbook, you find an "or"..................as in 1/4" inch.........or........the package is a rigid.

Been shipping that way with tracking for over 20 years without an issue. 1000's of packages.

Well.............maybe one. Over 10 years ago, I think an overzealous clerk sent a package back to me with that 1/4" inch notation, from around the Philadelphia area. Went and dug up in the handbook the full definition of the dimensions of package tracking for 1st Class Mail, brought it back to my branch office, and they just threw it back in the system and it eventually got where it was going.
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Yeah, I never understood that. 1/4" inch isn't that much. between a couple pieces of cardboard and the surrounding packaging and you have yourself an easy 1/4" inch. Anyways, I think if you go deep enough into the handbook, you find an "or"..................as in 1/4" inch.........or........the package is a rigid.

Been shipping that way with tracking for over 20 years without an issue. 1000's of packages.

Well.............maybe one. Over 10 years ago, I think an overzealous clerk sent a package back to me with that 1/4" inch notation, from around the Philadelphia area. Went and dug up in the handbook the full definition of the dimensions of package tracking for 1st Class Mail, brought it back to my branch office, and they just threw it back in the system and it eventually got where it was going.
We have a lady that sometimes fills in at our PO. She thinks it is her duty to try and fold your bubble mailer in half.
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We have a lady that sometimes fills in at our PO. She thinks it is her duty to try and fold your bubble mailer in half.
Sellers should keep an image of that person in mind when packaging things for shipment. If they did, far fewer items would arrive damaged.
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Speaking of shipping, I hate:

--The guy who wrecks a perfectly good card saver or toploader with tape, especially the one who tapes the entire opening of a card saver with scotch tape. It is just such a waste. Use the blue tape, people.

--The guy who doesn't seal the top of a toploader at all. Blue tape, team bag, even a folded over post-it will work. I had to send back a nice card a week ago because the jackhole who sold it shipped it in an unsealed toploader and when it got to me it had slipped out of the holder and picked up a nicely dinged corner.

--The guy who puts a card saver or top loader into a padded envelope without a stiffener, and especially the one who sticks a packing peanut in there too. What kind of moron thinks that is going to make it to the customer without damage? Ever see a 1960 Leaf baseball pack? The damn marble just tears through the wax paper.

--The guy who mummifies the card holder in tape. I appreciate the sentiment but if I have to resort to a knife to open the holder you are not protecting the card, you are making it more likely that I will damage it trying to open it.
Man I agree with all of these. I'll add the guy who sends a graded card in a flimsy bubble mailer with no extra bubble wrap or padding to protect the card. I'm shocked that people send $800 cards this way!
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We all know that ebay guy who lists cards for 10 times what they are worth. I hate that guy but I hate it even more when that guy comes over to BST to do the same thing.

A little foreshadowing: I didn't know it at the time, but this guy has a fairly obscure SGC 5 card up on ebay for $165 OBO. A PSA 7 of that card just sold for $60 earlier this month, so you might figure his card is worth $20-25.

This guy also has a listing on BST right now for some low grade cards that are more or less fairly priced. So I bought one and he asked me what else I was interested in, because he was "selling off his collection". He sent me a scan of some cards, including his SGC 5 card and I asked what he wanted for it. (It was a front office exec for a team that my aunt's family once had ownership in. I thought I could show it to her and see if she remembered him.)

How about $190? he said. (Yes, more than what he is asking on ebay!)

I am so annoyed by that ebay/BST guy. Most of the members here are a pleasure to deal with, when a scammer comes around here it is a pain.

From my 'Collectorisms' thread:
"See also: Trolesaler - a person who’s a member of this site for no other reason than to take advantage of the free access to the B/S/T and hawk their exorbitantly priced cards."
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From my 'Collectorisms' thread:

"See also: Trolesaler - a person who’s a member of this site for no other reason than to take advantage of the free access to the B/S/T and hawk their exorbitantly priced cards."
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The eBay "guy" who puts "CENTERED" in the title...and the card is 80/20 or worse.

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The eBay "guy" who puts "CENTERED" in the title...and the card is 80/20 or worse.
I saw a listing for a card I was interested in that had a MC qualifier and in the listing title, it said Great Centering.
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