New BODA thread; PWCC selling previously outed cards now "reviewed by PSA"

[Peter_Spaeth]

Suppose PWCC knew the card was from Gary and that he had or likely had altered it (hypothetically of course)? Change your analysis, Ryan?

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Suppose PWCC knew the card was from Gary and that he had or likely had altered it (hypothetically of course)? Change your analysis, Ryan?

Its not PWCC's card. I suppose they can refuse to sell it, but its not their property to dispose of. In the case where PWCC knows its from Gary and/or likely has been altered, then can (1) not allow the owner to use PWCC to sell it, (2) get a re-evaluation and disclose, or (3) just list/sell it, not ask for a re-evaluation and not disclose their suspicions. But it is not their property to dispose of.

I would hope PWCC did #1, like Brian of Mile High just did with the Tiger Woods. But if PWCC does #2, then I cannot fault them (the link does not go to listing so I do not know what kind of disclosure was made); assuming the disclosure is real and informative, they are selling their client's property and being honest about what is being sold.

Look, I am not a defender of PWCC at all. But if someone comes to an AH with a PSA numerically graded card, and the AH has reason to believe that PSA is wrong and the card is likely altered, I think making a full and honest disclosure, while not ideal, is acceptable.

Ben, with regards to your post, I dont think you are implying anything of me, but to be clear, I have never altered a card in my life (I did cut 1986 Topps cards off the bottom of the boxes!).

[Peter_Spaeth]

I think it's been taken down which is why you can't find it.

As far as the options you mention, the problem with selling it even with disclosure is that it keeps the card in circulation and the next guy probably sells it with no disclosure. Of course that can happen too if you refuse to sell it give it back to the consignor and he shops it elsewhere.

I guess the best one can do is resolve not to be part of the problem, which is certainly better than cooperating in some dog and pony re-review of a clearly bad card.

PS I understand PWCC can't hand over someone else's card, I did not mean to suggest they should, I was just struck by the apparent inconsistency between doing that on cards they had bought back and going this route on other outed cards.