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carlsonjok · #1 04-10-2021, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by irv

With the brainwashing about the onset of "man made global warming" why would they spend the extra money increasing its citizens electrical bills to purchase solar and wind turbines that can handle cold spells?

As someone who works in the oil and gas industry, I would point out that natural gas pipeline and distribution systems require large compressors that suffer the same problem as wind turbines. Any kind of rotating equipment, if not properly weatherproofed, will break down. And many did.

#2 04-10-2021, 09:40 AM

Unless you live in Texas you probably aren't qualified to really tell us how perfect or imperfect Texas is. Sometimes things happen like an unprecedented 100+ year Texas winter storm and it creates havoc. No worse than a hurricane or tornado. Similar to the pandemic our country was completely unprepared for. Couldn't even get enough PPE. Yes, they could have prepared better for the storm but more than likely it still would have been a problem for many since the forecast was pretty short notice. Where I live I'm pretty much set up to be self sufficient when needed and anyone else can easily do the same. I live in a flood zone and being an Eagle Scout I'm always over prepared. We had wood, water, fireplace, generator, etc. A lot of people weren't prepared and didn't take it seriously so it's not just on the state or the electric providers.
Also I have said before Texas isn't a free for all right now. In Central Texas all the virus protocols are still in place for masks, distancing, etc. even though the state doesn't have a mandate. They never enforced the mandates anyway. That was always at state and local levels. Seeing that the states that have the surges right now are all north of the Mason Dixon line I think it would be best for everyone to just chill on dissing Texas and other southern states who are using common sense but still practicing protocols. Vaccine appointments are down I read this morning even though it's open to everyone. Let's talk about all of the people who are scared to get one. Now that's an interesting topic.

carlsonjok · #3 04-10-2021, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wimberleycardcollector

Unless you live in Texas you probably aren't qualified to really tell us how perfect or imperfect Texas is. Sometimes things happen like an unprecedented 100+ year Texas winter storm and it creates havoc.

Oklahoma and Louisiana are adjoining states and went through the same storm without the same problems. The Southeast Power Pool did have some limited rolling black outs on a couple days, but neither state suffered anywhere near the same level of havoc as Texas.

You know why it is so windy in Oklahoma? Because Kansas sucks and Texas blows! I'm here all week. Don't forget to tip your server.

#4 04-10-2021, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by carlsonjok

Oklahoma and Louisiana are adjoining states and went through the same storm without the same problems. The Southeast Power Pool did have some limited rolling black outs on a couple days, but neither state suffered anywhere near the same level of havoc as Texas.

You know why it is so windy in Oklahoma? Because Kansas sucks and Texas blows! I'm here all week. Don't forget to tip your server.

I'm fully aware that the provider didn't prepare like they should have. That's on them and I bet they won't be doing it any longer after this storm. Most of the board has already resigned. BTW they aren't even based in Texas. Oklahoma has a history of really cold weather/snow for extended periods and Texas doesn't. Not even close to this severity. Texas hasn't had weather that cold for that period of time since the turn of the century. BTW they survived it then. LOL. Not all of Texas experienced it either. We never lost electric (not even rolling blackouts) or water here in Wimberley (west of Austin) even though I was quite prepared if we had. My point was people not in Texas sure have a lot of negative to say about Texas without any real life experience to base it on. You also can't believe everything you see on the Sheeple news.

Funny too. Two of my best friends are from Oklahoma, born and raised, and they couldn't wait to get here and say they would never go back.

AustinMike · #5 04-10-2021, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wimberleycardcollector

I'm fully aware that the provider didn't prepare like they should have. That's on them and I bet they won't be doing it any longer after this storm.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4490501001/

In 2011 Texas suffered a cold snap causing power interruptions. "A post-mortem at the time � including a key finding that state officials recommended but did not mandate winter protections for generating facilities."

https://www.statesman.com/article/20...NEWS/304119704

In 1989 Texas suffered a cold snap causing power interruptions. The PUC prepared a report. "A section of the document labeled �Recommendations� stated: �All utilities should ensure that they incorporate the lessons learned during December of 1989 into the design of new facilities� and �ensure that procedures are implemented to correct defective freeze protection equipment prior to the onset of cold weather.�

Don't hold your breath.

Leon · #6 04-10-2021, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinMike

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4490501001/

In 2011 Texas suffered a cold snap causing power interruptions. "A post-mortem at the time � including a key finding that state officials recommended but did not mandate winter protections for generating facilities."

https://www.statesman.com/article/20...NEWS/304119704

In 1989 Texas suffered a cold snap causing power interruptions. The PUC prepared a report. "A section of the document labeled �Recommendations� stated: �All utilities should ensure that they incorporate the lessons learned during December of 1989 into the design of new facilities� and �ensure that procedures are implemented to correct defective freeze protection equipment prior to the onset of cold weather.�

Don't hold your breath.

Well, I don't know about this. Almost everyone in upper management at ERCOT and the PUC have been fired or resigned over the recent freeze disaster. My guess is that it does get fixed for the future. But I could be wrong. It IS the government.

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vintagetoppsguy · #7 04-10-2021, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Well, I don't know about this. Almost everyone in upper management at ERCOT and the PUC have been fired or resigned over the recent freeze disaster. My guess is that it does get fixed for the future. But I could be wrong. It IS the government.

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Right! And omitted from his post is the fact that most ERCOT executives didn't even live in Texas (or the US for that matter).

#8 04-10-2021, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinMike

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4490501001/

In 2011 Texas suffered a cold snap causing power interruptions. "A post-mortem at the time � including a key finding that state officials recommended but did not mandate winter protections for generating facilities."

https://www.statesman.com/article/20...NEWS/304119704

In 1989 Texas suffered a cold snap causing power interruptions. The PUC prepared a report. "A section of the document labeled �Recommendations� stated: �All utilities should ensure that they incorporate the lessons learned during December of 1989 into the design of new facilities� and �ensure that procedures are implemented to correct defective freeze protection equipment prior to the onset of cold weather.�

Don't hold your breath.

I think this was the last straw though. Like I said, most of the board has already resigned. Those cold snaps though weren't anywhere near what we just had. It had been 100 years since we had a storm like this.

Leon · #9 04-10-2021, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wimberleycardcollector

I think this was the last straw though. Like I said, most of the board has already resigned. Those cold snaps though weren't anywhere near what we just had. It had been 100 years since we had a storm like this.

I have the bottoms of 3 toes on my left foot which still have no feeling from the frost nip I got. I had cold weather boots on but not my heavy cold weather ones .

I have lived here all my life (close to 60 yrs. now) and have never seen anything anywhere close to what it just was. I understand it will be the largest insurance claims event in history, for Texas. Going through the natural disasters we have had that is saying something.

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vintagetoppsguy · #10 04-10-2021, 10:00 AM

I wonder, are there more people moving into Texas from other states, or moving out of Texas to other states?

Someone help me out here.

#11 04-10-2021, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I wonder, are there more people moving into Texas from other states, or moving out of Texas to other states?

Someone help me out here.

Exactly. Population has exploded here in Central Texas in the last fifteen years. Mostly from California, Oregon, Utah and Washington. I see more California plates here in Wimberley than Texas plates. LOL. Wimberley has almost doubled in population in the last ten years. It was less than 3000 the previous 150 years.

Leon · #12 04-10-2021, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I wonder, are there more people moving into Texas from other states, or moving out of Texas to other states?

I still wear a mask out in public but also believe people should be allowed to do what they want to. If others don't like it they can not go to wherever the masks are being worn. Just my personal opinion of course.

Someone help me out here.

It is crazy here in Texas. We have a lot of people moving here who don't believe in our values, coming in and wanting to change Texas. Honestly, I wish they would all go away. I love Texas but want to keep it Texan. (conservative, but not to get too political)

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#13 04-10-2021, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

It is crazy here in Texas. We have a lot of people moving here who don't believe in our values, coming in and wanting to change Texas. Honestly, I wish they would all go away. I love Texas but want to keep it Texan. (conservative, but not to get too political)

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Agreed! Don't California our Texas!

AustinMike · #14 04-10-2021, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

It is crazy here in Texas. We have a lot of people moving here who don't believe in our values, coming in and wanting to change Texas. Honestly, I wish they would all go away. I love Texas but want to keep it Texan. (conservative, but not to get too political)

I love Austin. I came here in '72 to attend UT and have never found my way out. The population back then was around 235,000. Now it's approaching 1,000,000. It has changed a lot. Not all change is bad. You have to accept the bad with the good and try to accentuate the good.

My dad was born and raised in northeast Texas. We visited my grandmother and uncles and aunts frequently in the 60s. Racism was rampant among my dad's family and that region. Some things need to change.

I do wish people would STOP moving here though.

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