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[tedzan]

This AB 350 of "Kid" Elberfeld is another "fat" one (1 15/32 inches wide). I'm finding more of these "fat" AB's than
I thought I had in my AMERICAN BEAUTY collection.

Hey guys
I'm still waiting for some one to chime in and explain (theories are welcomed) why American Lithographic cut these
AB cards narrower than the standard size T206's.


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TED Z

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[tedzan]

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........ Piedmont ......... Sovereign ....... Sweet Caporal___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards____POLAR BEAR .......... Hindu ....... American Beauty


I've said this before, and I'll say it again......I do NOT understand how Grading Company's (PSA, SGC, etc.) grade T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY cards with an "A".

Take for example this Jennings card. I acquired this beauty many years ago. Because of the A grade on it, I purchased it for a very reasonable price.





However, over the years, I felt it should have received a NUMERIC grade. So a few years ago, when SGC was still situated in New Jersey, I carefully cracked it out
of its plastic capsule and drove an hour to SGC and submitted this raw card to be graded (again).

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My expectations were realized. About an hour later, this was the result Somewhere, sometime there is justice in this world




TED Z

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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

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........ Piedmont ......... Sovereign ....... Sweet Caporal___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards____POLAR BEAR .......... Hindu ....... American Beauty


I've said this before, and I'll say it again......I do NOT understand how Grading Company's (PSA, SGC, etc.) grade T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY cards with an "A".

Take for example this Jennings card. I acquired this beauty many years ago. Because of the A grade on it, I purchased it for a very reasonable price.





However, over the years, I felt it should have received a NUMERIC grade. So a few years ago, when SGC was still situated in New Jersey, I carefully cracked it out
of its plastic capsule and drove an hour to SGC and submitted this raw card to be graded (again).

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My expectations were realized. About an hour later, this was the result Somewhere, sometime there is justice in this world




TED Z

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And now the same card resides in a PSA holder

Jennings AB.jpg

[tedzan]

What is your point, Pat ?

This is nothing new. I have already noted (in another thread recently) that I eventually sold this Jennings card to David Hall at the National.

And of course, David had it re-graded by PSA.



TED Z

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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

What is your point, Pat ?

This is nothing new. I have already noted (in another thread recently) that I eventually sold this Jennings card to David Hall at the National.

And of course, David had it re-graded by PSA.



TED Z

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The point is this is how the pop reports get skewed especially on the lower pop cards. This Jennings has now been in three different holders. The SGC
pop report lists 3 different Jennings one hand American Beauty's when actually there's only one.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Pat R

The point is this is how the pop reports get skewed especially on the lower pop cards. This Jennings has now been in three different holders. The SGC
pop report lists 3 different Jennings one hand American Beauty's when actually there's only one.

I'm not sure what you are driving at ?

Are you suggesting that collectors be "forbidden" to RE-SUBMIT their cards for grading in order to get a GRADE, which truly represents their card ? ?
Just because re-submitting cards will "skew" the Pop Reports.

This has been going on since Day 1 in the grading business.

Come on Pat, GET REAL ! !


TED Z

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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I'm not sure what you are driving at ?

Are you suggesting that collectors be "forbidden" to RE-SUBMIT their cards for grading in order to get a GRADE, which truly represents their card ? ?
Just because re-submitting cards will "skew" the Pop Reports.

This has been going on since Day 1 in the grading business.

Come on Pat, GET REAL ! !


TED Z

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No Ted I don't know where you come up with that from what I posted what's
with the attitude?